tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-129125032024-03-09T09:35:35.006-04:00Grupo Millennium HispaniolaEl Grupo Millennium Hispaniola es una propuesta para contribuir a la transformación de la República Dominicana y Haití en países desarrollados durante este siglo. El énfasis estará en desarrollar los mercados de la base de la pirámide para insertar corporaciones globales de la Hispaniola en la economía global. Pensemos primero en el máximo valor al cliente, como parte de una estrategia del desarrollo de la economía de los servicios eléctricos globales.José Antonio Vanderhorst-Silveriohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10513152976382997401noreply@blogger.comBlogger3108125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12912503.post-41445298447767962812022-11-23T11:47:00.017-04:002022-11-25T14:14:19.249-04:00Una introducción para expertos en lenguaje llano de regreso al GMH<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0in;"></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-ffGEAtK9QXQPHf9Tn6x_RNK1YZC841Oiw0_aiNnijPklNQ54ejaKefTRW9RiZOmhuO1D41m3QqeduDHOx7IKbXbUVjFVLvK-oGt6677UikP1NlItHsR_OrMnBjH5hcDfYZs9vwQYeGQIKZ76cop5QxEDBfPWEyb2Xt9L8ikE1-0NiXy6qg/s1691/No%20se%20debe%20gobernar%20con%20las%20redes.jpeg" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="757" data-original-width="1691" height="171" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-ffGEAtK9QXQPHf9Tn6x_RNK1YZC841Oiw0_aiNnijPklNQ54ejaKefTRW9RiZOmhuO1D41m3QqeduDHOx7IKbXbUVjFVLvK-oGt6677UikP1NlItHsR_OrMnBjH5hcDfYZs9vwQYeGQIKZ76cop5QxEDBfPWEyb2Xt9L8ikE1-0NiXy6qg/w382-h171/No%20se%20debe%20gobernar%20con%20las%20redes.jpeg" width="382" /></a></div><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;"><b><span style="font-family: trebuchet; font-size: medium;"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-weight: 400; line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0in; text-align: right;">“… <span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: white; caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: #333333;">hace cinco siglos que se le pidió a Niccolo Machiavelli que investigara porqué Pandolfo Petrucci era tan inconstante en su comportamiento. Machiavelli quedó profundamente impresionado por la explicación de Petrucci: “Deseando cometer la menor cantidad de errores, conduzco mi gobierno día a día y arreglo mis asuntos hora por hora porque los tiempos son más poderosos que nuestros cerebros” — cita tomada de la nota de junio del 2006, </span><a href="https://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2006/06/sr-zapete-debera-leonel-administrar-lo.html" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: #6699cc; text-decoration: none;">Sr. Zapete: ¿Debería Leonel Administrar lo que Queremos?</a></p></div></span></b></blockquote><span style="font-family: trebuchet; font-size: medium;"><b><span><div><b><span><br /></span></b></div>Preámbulo</span></b><span face=""Trebuchet MS", sans-serif">. </span></span><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0in;"><span style="font-family: trebuchet; font-size: medium;"><span face="Trebuchet MS, sans-serif">Es verdad: "No se debe gobernar con las redes" sociales. La anterior cita es suficiente para el público general. Esta nota, sin embargo, es para los expertos que necesitan tomar conciencia y actuar en consecuencia, porque no estamos solos. </span><span face="Trebuchet MS, sans-serif">El mundo global ha convergido en una gran incertidumbre. </span><span face=""Trebuchet MS", sans-serif">Vienen aconteciendo crecientes protestas que fueron documentadas por fuentes reconocidas. La inseguridad que vivimos es la encarnación de nuestra protesta en el contexto de la incertidumbre local. </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0in;"><span style="font-family: trebuchet; font-size: medium;">Parece que para responder distinto a las reacciones de Pandolfo Petrucci, Leonel Fernández y Luis Abinader, en una situación de cambio civilizacional, me he podido adelantar en exceso para ofrecer mi contribución sobre cómo responder proactivamente a las nuevas circunstancias. Se trata, por ejemplo, lo que llamo redes de etiquetas que pretenden reemplazar el "paper" científico. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0in;"><span style="font-family: trebuchet; font-size: medium;">Tales redes de etiquetas son elaboradas en un subconjunto que va más allá de las redes sociales en la plataforma Twitter. El objetivo es tratar de acercarnos al futuro emergente que abajo se refiere a minimizar las consecuencias no deseadas. Es una señal de la necesidad de una revolución científica que se reitera al final de la introducción.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0in;"><span style="font-family: trebuchet; font-size: medium;"><span face=""Trebuchet MS", sans-serif">Dicho eso, espero que me consideren como alguien que llegó de la Universidad</span><span face=""Trebuchet MS", sans-serif"> de Cornell en 1972, como alguien que precede y educa al nativo digital; como un agente global externo a la República Dominicana, para evitar el dicho de que no hay profeta en su tierra. </span><span face=""Trebuchet MS", sans-serif">Lo que sigue es una arista en lenguaje llano de los antecedentes a los que reivindico haber contribuido, aprovechando mayormente lo que obviamente otros han contribuido. </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0in;"><b><span style="font-family: trebuchet; font-size: medium;">Una introducción de regreso al Grupo Millennium Hispaniola</span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0in;"><span style="font-family: trebuchet; font-size: medium;"><span face=""Trebuchet MS", sans-serif" lang="ES-DO">Lo que empecé en mayo del 2005, orientado al sector
eléctrico, llevó el 30 de octubre de 2009 al ejercicio del </span><span face=""Trebuchet MS",sans-serif" style="color: #333333; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><a href="https://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2009/10/desarrollo-de-la-vision-compartida-de.html"><span lang="ES-DO" style="color: #336699; mso-ansi-language: ES-DO;">Desarrollo de la
Visión Compartida de Futuro del Grupo Millennium Hispaniola</span></a></span><span face=""Trebuchet MS",sans-serif" lang="ES-DO" style="color: #333333; mso-ansi-language: ES-DO; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">. El resultado de ese ejercicio se consignó el 19 de noviembre de 2009
en la </span><span face=""Trebuchet MS",sans-serif" style="color: #333333; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><a href="https://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2009/11/vision-compartida-de-futuro-del-grupo.html"><span lang="ES-DO" style="color: #336699; mso-ansi-language: ES-DO;">Visión Compartida de
Futuro del Grupo Millennium Hispaniola</span></a></span><span face=""Trebuchet MS",sans-serif" lang="ES-DO" style="color: #333333; mso-ansi-language: ES-DO; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">. De dicho
resultado, selecciono lo siguiente:</span> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: .5in; margin-right: 0in; margin-top: 0in; margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in;"><span lang="ES-DO" style="background-color: white; background: white; color: #333333; font-family: trebuchet; font-size: medium; mso-ansi-language: ES-DO; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><br /></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: .5in; margin-right: 0in; margin-top: 0in; margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: trebuchet; font-size: medium;"><span face=""Trebuchet MS",sans-serif" lang="ES-DO" style="background-color: white; background: white; color: #333333; mso-ansi-language: ES-DO; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Conforme a la visión
compartida del GMH podemos empezar con una estrategia orientada al mercado
global, centrada en el rejuvenecimiento de la educación, la electricidad y la
salud, desplegando el potencial de las tecnologías de información y
telecomunicaciones a esos sectores.</span><span face=""Trebuchet MS", sans-serif" lang="ES-DO"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: trebuchet; font-size: medium;"><span face=""Trebuchet MS", sans-serif" lang="ES-DO">Con el paso del tiempo, el
rejuvenecimiento sobre la salud no se tocó más hasta que llegó la pandemia que se trató en otros medios diferentes al Blog GMH; el rejuvenecimiento sobre la
educación continuó, pero el énfasis se concentró en el sector electricidad. Tal
énfasis reconoció que se trataba de un problema perverso en la circunstancia
global que desborda la circunstancia nacional. Adelantándome un tanto, sin embargo, </span><span face=""Trebuchet MS", sans-serif">resultó </span><span face=""Trebuchet MS", sans-serif">que la
salud y la educación son igualmente problemas perversos en la circunstancia global. En los antecedentes ya se ha adelantado bastante como se debería desplegar el referido potencial de las TICs, por medio de red de etiquetas.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span lang="ES-DO" style="font-family: trebuchet;">Increíble, pero cierto, lo primero que se
necesita no es una estrategia orientada al mercado global. Eso vendría después.
Lo primero es una transformación civilizacional, que se iniciaría con una
Declaración de Interdependencia Global. Se crearía un Estado Global
descentralizado, con la soberanía de la gente de todo el mundo global, que como
mucho sería delegada a lo municipal. La soberanía de las naciones fue una
salida valiosa en su momento histórico </span><span style="font-family: trebuchet;">de la Era Contemporánea. Sin embargo, ya hemos</span><span style="font-family: trebuchet;"> pasado a la Era Cibernética.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span lang="ES-DO" style="font-family: trebuchet; font-size: medium;">El modelo marco que sirve como la
circunstancia de mayor influencia a toda la gente del mundo global pasa de La Riqueza de las Naciones a La
Riqueza de la Globalización con el mencionado cambio civilizacional. Mientras la mayoría de esa gente sigue viviendo en la Edad Media Global bajo la soberanía nacional,
existe una élite global que mantiene secuestrada la globalización. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span lang="ES-DO" style="font-family: trebuchet; font-size: medium;">Tal secuestro hace que contemos con sistemas cada vez más antisistémicos: aquellos que generan consecuencias no intencionadas y también mal intencionadas para la gran mayoría de la gente con la ayuda de lobistas al servicio de la élite. Para minimizar tales consecuencias negativas necesitamos sistemas sistémicos, especialmente en los sistemas de democracia.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span lang="ES-DO" style="font-family: trebuchet; font-size: medium;">Dicho lo anterior, antes de que tratemos
de seguir a los países desarrollados de La Riqueza de las Naciones, necesitamos
aceptar que bajo La Riqueza de la Globalización no puede haber países
desarrollados. Primero necesitamos la Transformación civilizacional global y
luego la Transición estratégica nacional. Vengo solicitando sin éxito un ejemplo de nación con democracia sistémica. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: trebuchet; font-size: medium;"><span face=""Trebuchet MS", sans-serif" lang="ES-DO">Es bajo dicha Edad Media Global que sigue
la creciente incertidumbre que impide, por ejemplo, el rejuvenecimiento de la
educación, la electricidad y la salud; no es plausible seguir la ilusión de la Estrategia
Nacional de Desarrollo, sugerida por</span> las Naciones Unidas con la Agenda 2030. Esa ilusión no es plausible en ninguna nación del mundo
global. La red de organizaciones de las Naciones Unidas necesita una
transformación mayor. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span lang="ES-DO" style="font-family: trebuchet;">Ligada al rejuvenecimiento de la electricidad está la
crisis del Cambio Climático. Bajo la creencia de que “La tercera es la vencida,”
en abril del 2015 escribí la nota </span><span style="color: #333333; font-family: trebuchet; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><a href="https://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2015/04/after-million-total-views-in-ewpc-blog.html"><span lang="ES-DO" style="color: #336699; text-decoration-line: none;">After a million total views in EWPC Blog, a climate change
architecting hypothesis breakthrough for COP21</span></a></span><span lang="ES-DO" style="color: #333333; font-family: trebuchet; mso-ansi-language: ES-DO; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">, algo así como “Después de un millón de vistas al blog EWPC, una
hipótesis de avance de la arquitectura de cambio climático para la COP21.”Recientemente se logró una victoria pírrica en la COP27: financiamiento para pérdidas y daños, pero con más cambio climático de lo mismo. Es decir, sin tomar, por ejemplo, en cuenta la respuesta de cambio civilizacional de esta nota. </span></span></p><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span lang="ES-DO" style="color: #333333; font-family: trebuchet; mso-ansi-language: ES-DO; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Las</span></span><span style="font-family: trebuchet;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="color: #333333;"> protestas recurrentes, por ejemplo, en los sectores eléctrico, educativo y salud animan a ser enfrentados. Serían enfrentados con el mismo frente común del cambio climático, con la unión de una masa crítica de los afectados, en lo que respecta a los sistemas antisistémicos implantados legalmente. La lucha local es inviable frente a la poderosa élite global.</span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: trebuchet;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: trebuchet; font-size: medium;">Para todo lo anterior, hacen falta una
nueva Ilustración, la tercera, y una nueva Revolución Científica, la segunda. Supone
que la primera Ilustración es de Grecia y la segunda de Europa. Creemos que la
primera Revolución Científica aconteció en Europa. Mucho se ha adelantado al respecto en los antecedentes de esta nota.</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: trebuchet; font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: trebuchet; font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: trebuchet; font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><div class="post-header" style="background-color: white; color: #999999; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 1.6; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em;"><div class="post-header-line-1"></div></div><div class="post-body entry-content" id="post-body-988674019087499696" itemprop="articleBody" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; line-height: 1.4; position: relative; width: 578px;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg2AtogUyhyphenhyphenwGKKipZwuvOiT7pWYtf-6vgI-VY9cHXe6U8gN5TNlFUSPJsw617ZkWFIFPnReF6l2sjXcTGXYJweTD_6vB6eCrCNeu8apicktwg3vByY8MNS6yIpGxrbeDJJslvx/s1600-h/Direcci%C3%B3n+ADOEXPO.jpg" style="color: #336699; text-decoration-line: none;"></a></div><div class="blogger-post-footer">GMH-UPSA</div>José Antonio Vanderhorst-Silveriohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10513152976382997401noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12912503.post-74142634953384924892019-01-31T21:19:00.000-04:002022-04-21T23:02:08.563-04:00Una docena notas fueron borradas por error de la Bitácora Digital.<br /><br />Es muy probable que haya sucedido anteriormente y no me haya percatado.<br /><br />Estoy en el proceso de restablecerlas, pero los enlaces automáticos o permalink van a ser diferentes.<br /><br /><br /><br /><script type="text/javascript"><br />_uacct = "UA-1837247-1";<br />urchinTracker();<br /></script><div class="blogger-post-footer">GMH-UPSA</div>José Antonio Vanderhorst-Silveriohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10513152976382997401noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12912503.post-82878550960143711802018-05-24T17:52:00.002-04:002022-04-21T23:26:05.993-04:00Interpretación con "Ignorancia Creativa" no razonable de la encuesta que sube la marea globalComo parte de una larga conversación de tuits, que amplía el trasfondo de este Blog GMH, ayer se desarrollo una encuesta. Para los fines de esta breve nota esa encuesta la dejamos en dicho trassfondo, para centrarnos en la imagen que aparece a continuación.<br />
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La razón es que esa imagen abre en estos momentos históricos una gran ventana de oportunidad para la iniciativa República Dominicana (Un País) Sin Apagones (RDUPSA) a Caminantes Global Debout de todo el mundo (por ejemplo de Europa 15M) por ejemplo de China, USA, Haití, Puerto Rico, México, Venezuela, Colombia.<br />
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Para facilitar los fines que nos interesan en el contexto económico, social, político y cultural global y nacional, sugiero que pongan mucha atención a la nota <a href="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2012/04/la-educacion-para-la-prosperidad.html">La Educación Para la Prosperidad Requiere Hacer Camino al Andar</a>, que ligada a dicha conversación de tuits ahora cuenta con su “Segunda actualización. En la relación #China-#RepDom, ¿harán los Caminantes #GlobalDebout un Camino con Corazón para Garatas y Precarios?”
<div class="blogger-post-footer">GMH-UPSA</div>José Antonio Vanderhorst-Silveriohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10513152976382997401noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12912503.post-71663107321120492752017-07-20T14:11:00.000-04:002017-07-20T14:12:20.927-04:00Abraza la Globalización Brillante desestimando el #PactoElectrico<div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;">
Este es mi respuesta a la invitación a la <span style="background-color: white;">PREPLENARIA DEL PACTO ELÉCTRICO DE HOY, JUEVES 20 DE JULIO A LAS 3:00 P.M. en el Aula Octagonal 2 (AO-2)</span><span style="background-color: white;"> en el primer piso del Edif. AI de la PUCMM.</span></div>
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Hasta prueba en contrario, he reivindicado ser el lider de los indignados de clase media de todo el mundo con el "Third update. Please falsify my TC1 claim to be the thought leader of #GlobalDebout" de la nota <a href="http://bit.ly/g665mh" style="color: #1155cc;">Can #GlobalDebaut international call concentrate on an Ashoka like solid framework change?</a></div>
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Al respecto, sugiero que desestimen firmar un Pacto Eléctrico que siga impulsando La Marcha de la Locura de la Globalización Oscura. Por el contrario apoyen mi versión del "Think Different" de Steve Jobs, que corresponde a "Embrace #BrightCapitalism," algo así como "Abraza la Globalización Brillante," que nace a partir de la imagen siguiente:</div>
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This <a href="https://twitter.com/gmh_upsa/status/874304681509519360">conversation of tweets</a> which we call TC1 deals with the same topic in more depth as Twitter hashtags (that start with #) can be understood as emerging knowledge flows. We suggest that this approximates to the Third Degree of Clarity that corresponds to the #EcoIsOurs professionals that complement EcoNoMics scientists. This of course is the Twitter Version.<br />
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To <a href="https://twitter.com/theresa_may">@theresa_may</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/EUCouncil">@EUCouncil</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash">#EuropeIN</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GlobalDebout?src=hash">#GlobalDebout</a>: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BrightGlobalization?src=hash">#BrightGlobalization</a> is available to dissolve <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DarkGlobalization?src=hash">#DarkGlobalization</a>’s <a href="https://twitter.com/BlackSwanTaleb">@BlackSwanTaleb</a> <a href="https://t.co/1XoLKKeFwe">pic.twitter.com/1XoLKKeFwe</a></div>
— Jose A Vanderhorst S (@gmh_upsa) <a href="https://twitter.com/gmh_upsa/status/874341018577100801">June 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Como verán, quitar del poder al Presidente Medina, sin desarmar La Marcha de la Locura global que se instaló en la República Dominicana con la Capitalización de su sector eléctrico, sería desperdiciar la crisis de grandes proporciones que vive gran parte de la humanidad. Todo lo que sucede es que, en lo que degeneró en el obsoleto y abusivo paradigma de La Riqueza de las Naciones, muchos países son financiados con el capital financiero de corto plazo que hace crecer la deuda de forma insostenible bajo la reglas de juego de la Globalización Oscura que privatizan las ganancias y socializan las pérdidas. Hace falta que se inicie el dominó de La Riqueza de la Globalización para impulsar el capital financiero de largo plazo.<br />
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Para iniciar ese dominó global, la República Dominicana es un lugar de los más anti-sistémicos del mundo, por el gran perjuicio relativo que le ocasiona por encima del de muchos otros países, tiene un gran potencial para empezar el proceso de desarmar La Marcha de la Locura de la Globalización Oscura y de paso la DesGlobalización que llegó como respuesta equivocada. Tal potencial estaría avalado por el modelo marco de República Dominicana Sin Apagones (#RDUPSA en Twitter) que serviría de patrón para cambiar las constituciones anti-sistémicas por sistémicas de países y uniones de países.<br />
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Para el presi Danilo Medina, "Desiderio Arias" quien lo acaba de relanzar a la fama. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AyOmbe?src=hash">#AyOmbe</a> <a href="https://t.co/SidV7KkWZ4">https://t.co/SidV7KkWZ4</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ElUngidoDeOdebrecht?src=hash">#ElUngidoDeOdebrecht</a></div>
— Giovanni DAlessandro (@giovannida) <a href="https://twitter.com/giovannida/status/877653748440596480">June 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Dando retuit a su tuit anterior, tenemos la siguiente conversación de tuits:<br />
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<a href="https://twitter.com/ClaudioCaamano">@ClaudioCaamano</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/OlayaDotel">@OlayaDotel</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/nuriapiera">@nuriapiera</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/DJavierTH">@DJavierTH</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/fdespinal">@fdespinal</a> Mensaje para reivindicar la necesidad de llegada de la <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BrightGlobalization?src=hash">#BrightGlobalization</a> <a href="https://t.co/NAJ3NbUsfJ">pic.twitter.com/NAJ3NbUsfJ</a></div>
— Jose A Vanderhorst S (@gmh_upsa) <a href="https://twitter.com/gmh_upsa/status/877867698012602368">June 22, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<a href="https://twitter.com/CNLCC2016">@CNLCC2016</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/CREESRD">@CREESRD</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/erselman">@erselman</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/PCiudadana">@PCiudadana</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JoseMonegro">@JoseMonegro</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ANJE_RD">@ANJE_RD</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PuntaCatalina?src=hash">#PuntaCatalina</a>: el Gran Riesgo de poner todos los huevos en la misma canasta <a href="https://t.co/R5LZ0xPBnW">pic.twitter.com/R5LZ0xPBnW</a></div>
— Jose A Vanderhorst S (@gmh_upsa) <a href="https://twitter.com/gmh_upsa/status/877978771315359744">June 22, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Escucha por favor lo que anticipé en julio de 2012 en la <a href="https://twitter.com/ACRD1974">@ACRD1974</a> <a href="https://t.co/RGWY2PFWEL">https://t.co/RGWY2PFWEL</a> ¿Quién gana si van bien?¿Quién pierde si van mal? <a href="https://t.co/Jvkhc61gKP">pic.twitter.com/Jvkhc61gKP</a></div>
— Jose A Vanderhorst S (@gmh_upsa) <a href="https://twitter.com/gmh_upsa/status/878028491882737664">June 22, 2017</a></blockquote>
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A seguidas aparecen dos tuit en respuesta al tuit anterior. Lo que aparece en la introducción supera con creces ambos plateamientos.<br />
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Plenamente de acuerdo con este planteamiento. Por lo que la Comisión debería recomendarlo. Y el gobierno rescindir Contrato con ODEBRECHT.</div>
— Dr. José D. Jiménez (@JdanielJimenezb) <a href="https://twitter.com/JdanielJimenezb/status/878095730015186945">June 23, 2017</a></blockquote>
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prefiero terminar la construcción y después conceptualizamos pero yo no puedo seguir pagando la energía vendida por usureros <a href="https://t.co/KXut6KZlDh">https://t.co/KXut6KZlDh</a></div>
— Antonio Perdomo M. (@nitoleaks) <a href="https://twitter.com/nitoleaks/status/878191930596769792">June 23, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<b>Segunda actualización</b>. ¿Sería 'rídículo popular' pedirle a Donald Trump, a Mariano Rajoy y a Nicolás Maduro que renuncien? En respuesta a lo que aparece en la noticia <a href="http://acento.com.do/2017/politica/8467182-intelectuales-activistas-proponen-la-renuncia-danilo-medina-reforma-constitucional-eleccion-popular/">Intelectuales y activistas proponen la renuncia de Danilo Medina y reforma constitucional por elección popular</a>, jerarcas del gobierno, por ejemplo, han dicho lo que aparece en estos dos tuits que entiendo son más que suficientes:<br />
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— Nuria Piera (@nuriapiera) <a href="https://twitter.com/nuriapiera/status/877244691909095424">June 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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En un mundo en que las elecciones han migrado de la lucha entre la izquierda y la derecha a la lucha entre la Globalización Oscura y la DesGlobalización que llegó en respuesta de lo que se describe en el texto inicial de esta nota "La Marcha de la Locura de la Globalización Oscura: versión de la República Dominicana," la democracia representativa dejó de tener validez en casi todo el mundo y especialmente en la República Dominicana.</div>
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Al respecto recordamos la siguiente conversación de 9 tuits (favor pulsar en área blanca si desea pasar a Twitter y acceder a dicha conversación), que sugiere la transformación constitucional en República Dominican, España y Venezuela, y que ocurrió antes de que el Dr. Flavio Darío Espinal se convirtiese en Consultor Jurídico Poder Ejecutivo.</div>
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¿Es Carta Democrática <a href="https://twitter.com/OEA_oficial">@OEA_oficial</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CDI?src=hash">#CDI</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/DJavierTH">@DJavierTH</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/EdJorgePrats">@EdJorgePrats</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/rafael_ciprian">@rafael_ciprian</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/fdespinal">@fdespinal</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/cristobalrodg">@cristobalrodg</a> realista <a href="https://t.co/eFDFBq13Y5">https://t.co/eFDFBq13Y5</a>?</div>
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En particular, veamos un intercambio previo que sostuvimos con el Dr. Espinal en ocasión de su destello de presciencia en el artículo <span style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.diariolibre.com/opinion/en-directo/la-era-del-descontento-GK3268888">La era del descontento</a> que ahora se vuelve muy oportuno</span>:<br />
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<b>Primera actualización. </b>Saquemos a #PuntaCatalina del ojo del huracán con un “Cisne Negro” positivo. Siguiendo el mismo esquema de la introducción de esta nota y amparado en la nota <a href="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2017/06/the-bright-globalization-is-available.html">The Bright Globalization is available to dissolve Dark Globalization’s Black Swans</a>, a seguidas aparece la image de Twitter de los dos tuits más recientes de la conversación de tuits.<br />
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Las siguientes 8 imágenes compartidas que corresponden dos tuits consecutivos y la nota <a href="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2016/08/grito-patriotico-por-la.html">Un Grito Patriótico por la Interdependencia Eléctrica</a> son más que suficientes para que el publico general se entere de la situación y decida si la difunde al resto de sus amigos de la población local, global o ambas. Esto puede decirse que se aproxima al Segundo Grado de Claridad que es el que tradicionalmente usa la prensa masiva, Esta es la versión para Facebook.<br />
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Esta <a href="https://twitter.com/gmh_upsa/status/872915875296399361">conversación de tuits</a> trata el mismo tema con mayor profundidad. Sugerimos que esto aproxima al Tercer Grado de Claridad que es el que corresponde a los profesionales de la #EcoSiNuestra o #EcoIsOurs. Esta es la Versión para Twitter.<br />
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<a href="https://twitter.com/JoseMonegro">@JoseMonegro</a> La Marcha de la Locura de la <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DarkGlobalization?src=hash">#DarkGlobalization</a>: versión de la <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RepDom?src=hash">#RepDom</a> | “Un Grito Patriótico por..." <a href="https://t.co/VKA5KeY4yV">https://t.co/VKA5KeY4yV</a> <a href="https://t.co/ss6LczFfi3">pic.twitter.com/ss6LczFfi3</a></div>
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La tarifa regulada es una aberración en un mundo que cuenta con Internet. Es un contrasentido mantener un retraso (sistémico) de meses cuando el precio real de mercado puede conocerse en pocas horas. Es increíble que en el mundo (no es solo España) todavía no se tome en cuenta el aporte de mercado de un consumidor que administra su autoconsumo (automáticamente) cuando los precios, por ejemplo, horarios reflejen el mercado. El problema es que la institución del Estado no lo puede hacer. Tiene que ser la institución del mercado. Con solo agregarle por favor una arroba a gmh_upsa pueden ver tweets de hoy que se concentran en explicar y responder al déficit de tarifa.</div>
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"No lo entiendo. Si yo no consumo, ¿por qué debo pagar por los errores de un sector sobredimensionado?." Se trata de un servicio en que las ganancias están privatizadas y las pérdidas socializadas. Los errores son simplemente de la institución del Estado. Como expliqué en otros comentarios hace falta la comercialización de electricidad se maneje con la institución del mercado.</div>
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Si tiene que ver con las finanzas de a luz, pero no es la causa. Es solamente un síntoma que desaparece si se reorganiza correctamente el sector eléctrico haciendo que sea la competencia ente la oferta y la demanda la que dicte los precios, por ejemplo, cada hora en cada lugar. Esa competencia no puede ser de precios dictados por un mercado mayorista. Tiene que ser una competencia entre detallistas no afiliados a la generación central que desarrollen modelos de negocio competitivos, similar a lo que nos enseñó Steve Jobs, empezando por la experiencia del consumidor. Ver http dos puntos barra barra grupomillenium punto blogspot punto com barra 2013/0 barra /servicio-electrico-sobresaliente punto html</div>
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Ustedes no están solos. Los dominicanos llevamos varios años subsidiando el sector eléctrico con miles de millones de dólares anuales. Se trata de una crisis sistémica de grandes proporciones que en vez de resolverse con la restructuración de los 90, se complicó aun más, dejando la institución del Estado a cargo, cuando es la institución del mercado (no la mal llamada "competencia" en generación dejando la demanda inelástica) la que puede introducir rendimientos crecientes en comercialización, por ejemplo, con Internet. En resumen, hay que cambiar la Ley de Electricidad.</div>
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La causa de del déficit de tarifa no está cercana en el tiempo, el espacio ni en el contexto. En el tiempo se remonta a los años 90 cuando se reestructuró equivocadamente al no dejar que los clientes finales respondan lo más pronto posible a los cambios horarios de precios. En cuanto al espacio, los precios óptimos dependen del lugar. La congestión en las redes generan pérdidas locales que necesitan administrarse. El contexto de hoy no es el contexto de los años 90. Es necesario desarrollar los recursos del lado de la demanda para dotarla de elasticidad con un financiamiento productivo de largo plazo. La generación central (tampoco la distribuida) no debe recibir más capital financiero de corto plazo, que es el que más aumenta el déficit de tarifa. Ver http dos puntos barra barra grupomillenium punto blogspot.com barra 2013/07 barra el-espejo-espanol-la-institucion-del punto html</div>
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Síntesis de la reforma que responde de una vez por todas a Bruselas y al FMI: jefes de Estado garantizan precios de mercado transparentes y compensación justa por mal servicio. Al igual que en República Dominicana y en muchos países, en España se reformó el sector eléctrico para organizar un mercado mayorista que implantó un sistema que en vez de considerar el bienestar del conjunto, solo aseguró el bienestar de los inversionistas. Siguiendo la síntesis, ya el 2 de octubre de 2013 se presentó la respuesta a la necesidad de la reforma para todos esos paises, como pueden ver en la nota "Presupuestos inestables: como hizo el Presidente Roosevelt, la crisis eléctrica requiere un cambio de sistema" <a href="http://cort.as/6Dhf" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/10/presupuestos-inestables-como-hizo-el.html">http://cort.as/6Dhf</a></div>
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Lo que sigue es la medida más útil disponible en estos momentos. Si España quisiera reactivar su economía encontraría que su sector eléctrico sufre de una crisis sistémica que el FMI no ha reconocido y que es provocada por su ley eléctrica. La evidencia más palpable es el déficit de tarifa. Esa crisis sistémica es comparable con la de la banca durante la gran depresión de 1930. Para más detalles, vea la nota "Presupuestos inestables: como hizo el Presidente Roosevelt, la crisis eléctrica requiere un cambio de sistema ( <a href="http://cort.as/6Dhf" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://cort.as/6Dhf">http://cort.as/6Dhf</a> )."</div>
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Al igual que en la República Dominicana, con sus gigantescos subsidios y apagones, el combate del déficit de tarifa seguido por España es totalmente defectuoso, simplemente porque el concepto tarifa dejó de tener sentido cuando la industria eléctrica perdió la garantía de la energía barata en 1972. Con dicha garantía, la suma a largo plazo de los costos de expansión de la industria eran estables, permitiendo pronosticar con mucha certeza dichas tarifas. Al desaparecer esa garantía, hemos visto cómo se genera una crisis sistémica que contagia toda la economía con efectos presupuestarios nocivos en aquellos sistemas con costos de operación significativos e inestables. Similar a como Roosevelt resolvió con un cambio de sistema la crisis bancaria durante la gran depresión, la solución a dicha crisis sistémica llegará donde los "jefes de Estado garantizan precios de mercado y compensación justa por mal servicio," como se explica en la nota "Propuesta simple (330 palabras) que los consumidores eléctricos no están esperando pero les encantará" <a href="http://cort.as/6DAJ" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://cort.as/6DAJ">http://cort.as/6DAJ</a></div>
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En ocasión del presupuesto, repito la nota, de hace dos meses, "Propuesta que no están esperando los dominicanos, ni los españoles, pero les encantará ( <a href="http://cort.as/59wa" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/08/propuesta-que-no-estan-esperando-los.html">http://cort.as/59wa</a> )," cuyo primer párrafo dice "Los gobiernos de República Dominicana y España podrían seguir tratando de resolver sus crisis económicas de forma independiente. Mucho mejor aún, podrían crear una bonanza si lo hacen de forma interdependiente, para empezar a salir de la crisis financiera de sus sectores eléctricos. Lo harían impulsando una competencia de modelos de negocios en el mercado minorista para implantar un servicio eléctrico sobresaliente. Eso solo se puede lograr si las autoridades cambian su modo de pensar de uno viejo a otro nuevo."</div>
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Al igual que los dominicanos, los españoles necesitan cambiar su defectuosa ley de electricidad. Puedo afirmar lo anterior por haber comprendido recientemente que soy uno de los pioneros en heuristic systems architecting (arquitecturía heurística de sistemas) de los sectores eléctricos. El problema fundamental es que la institución del Estado sigue tratando de regular tarifas (precios fijos socializados) que funcionaron muy bien cuando se disponía de la garantía de la energía barata y le permitían regular el sector sin hacer casi nada. Desde que se perdió la garantía de la energía barata en 1972 se ha perdido paulatinamente la transparencia de los precios sin que el Estado reconozca su incapacidad para regular precios. Simplemente ha faltado reconocer que la garantía de la información barata permite la introducción de precios variables individualizados y transparentes bajo la institución del mercado (satanizada por el status quo) que permiten ejecutar algo que sugerí hace más de dos años en el artículo “Desconectemos el presupuesto del Sector Eléctrico ( <a href="http://cort.as/6AvS" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://www.acento.com.do/index.php/blog/727/78/Desconectemos-el-Presupuesto-del-Sector-Electrico.html">http://cort.as/6AvS</a> ).”</div>
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Todo luce indicar que la CNE ha dado respuesta a la primera de las preguntas del artículo Are Europe's utilities dying? Or can they reinvent themselves? (¿están muriendo las eléctricas?¿o podrán reiventarse?) <a href="http://cort.as/5nFH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://www.smartgridnews.com/artman/publish/Business_Markets_Pricing/Are-Europe-s-utilities-dying-Or-can-they-reinvent-themselves-6007.html">http://cort.as/5nFH</a> -- La segunda pregunta es tendenciosa. Es como preguntarle a los ferrocarriles si pudieran reinventarse cuando llegaron los automóviles (el autoconsumo) y las carreteras (internet). Para más detalles repito lo que dije en un comentario anterior con la nota "Propuesta que no están esperando los dominicanos, ni los españoles, pero les encantará" <a href="http://cort.as/59wa" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://cort.as/59wa">http://cort.as/59wa</a> del que resalto el párrafo "Como se puede ver, por ejemplo, en la nota Participación de la institución del Estado y del FMI en el derroche eléctrico español, las recetas del FMI tuvieron su razón de ser en un mundo donde la energía era barata y la información cara. La gigantesca transformación de la energía cara a la información barata impulsará necesariamente la creación masiva de empleos." -- José Antonio Vanderhorst-Silverio, Ïngeniero consultor en arquitectura de sistemas de los sectores eléctricos.</div>
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Creemos que solamente se necesitan 3 ODS que necesitan cumplirse simultáneamente: factibilidad tecnológica, viabilidad económica y conveniencia social. Es así como el pensamiento de diseño enfrenta los problemas perversos. Esos problemas perversos son sistémicos. De acuerdo a Rechtin y Maier, en su libro “The art of systems architecting,” se deben enfrentar de forma individual y su resultado lo refleja. Añaden que “las arquitecturas sobresalientes son el producto de una sola mente – o de un equipo pequeño, cuidadosamente estructurado...” La nota “Servicio eléctrico sobresaliente ( <a href="http://cort.as/5bn_" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/07/servicio-electrico-sobresaliente.html">http://cort.as/5bn_</a> )” pretende ser un ejemplo con el que se descubre que tanto la industria verticalmente integrada, como la restructurada, solo cumplen simultáneamente 2 de esos objetivos trazados por consenso con la colaboración de expertos. Esos objetivos aseguran a los gobiernos que la inversión extranjera satisface la factibilidad tecnológica y la viabilidad económica, pero no la conveniencia social. Es solo cuando se satisfacen los tres objetivos simultáneamente que se puede asegurar el desarrollo sostenible.</div>
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En adición a mi primer comentario, donde solicito firmar una petición para reclamar una austeridad virtuosa en Change.org, íntimamente relacionada con este comentario, para mi no está tan claro que se gobierna para los mercados. En general se gobierna para la institución del Estado y se dieron a la tarea de desprestigiar los mercados en vez de vigilarlos correctamente. Tal es el caso, por ejemplo, del mercado eléctrico que es en el que he trabajado e investigado. Prácticamente todos los mercados eléctricos del mundo son mercados organizados para asegurar el retorno a la inversión a los inversionistas. Son mercados mediocres, económicamente viables, tecnológicamente factibles, pero no socialmente deseables. Lo que se necesita es desarrollar bajo la institución del mercado un servicio eléctrico sobresaliente que sea económicamente viable, tecnológicamente factible y también socialmente deseable como pueden ver en <a href="http://cort.as/5bn_" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/07/servicio-electrico-sobresaliente.html">http://cort.as/5bn_</a></div>
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Al igual que la rebaja de salarios del 10% que propuso el FMI, los españoles necesitan saber que la reforma eléctrica tiene todo lo que se necesita para seguir llevando a una austeridad viciosa. Después de ver las "Entradas populares de los últimos 30 días" en el blog <a href="http://cort.as/5ZtU" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/">http://cort.as/5ZtU</a> puedes tomar con conciencia la decisión de firmar o no una petición para reclamar una austeridad virtuosa en Change.org</div>
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Para los lectores: si lo deseas después de leer mi comentario anterior, que impulsa el empleo y la salida de la crisis, puedes hacer un retuit (en el símbolo que se parece a <>) del comentario en la nota #SESCVA y los certificados de eficiencia energética <a href="http://cort.as/5Pw0" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://cort.as/5Pw0">http://cort.as/5Pw0</a></div>
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Es un excelente insumo para iniciar la transformación que sugiere la nota "Con #SESCVA la recesión se va y la crisis también" <a href="http://cort.as/5MxR" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/08/la-recesion-se-va-y-la-crisis-puede.html">http://cort.as/5MxR</a> Dicha nota inicia así: “Debajo de la noticia 'La recesión se va, pero la crisis se queda,” publicada el 17 de agosto en ElPaís, coloqué el siguiente comentario: En la nota 174 Retweets en 1 mes a favor del ahorro de electricidad se presenta un panorama muy distinto…” "Es muy importante leer ambas notas para reconocer que están dadas todas las condiciones para que las economías vuelvan a crecer. Está también la nota 'Son exactamente 174 Retweet - 149 con 1, 9 con 2, 1 con 3 y 1 con 4.' Pueden ver cada uno, para comprobar la clase de reconocimiento que se logró en Twitter al Servicio eléctrico sobresaliente que nace del Modelo Marco de la Electricidad Con Valor Agregado (#SESCVA) y que sintetizamos como a favor del ahorro de electricidad."</div>
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Escrito para la situación dominicana, pero que en esencia aplica igualmente a España, en la nota "¿Queremos luz verde para seguir derrochando electricidad? (<a href="http://cort.as/5N-X" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/08/queremos-luz-verde-para-seguir.html">http://cort.as/5N-X</a> )," dice: "En ningún momento se ha aceptado la oportunidad de un cambio hacia una política de ahorro de electricidad basada en la garantía de la información barata, como la que aparece en la nota Servicio eléctrico sobresaliente. Esa política de ahorro tendrá un efecto transformador en todas las actividades económicas, sociales, políticas y culturales, generando al mismo tiempo el desarrollo de nuevas actividades de negocio, así como los empleos que sigue esperando la juventud." Lo importante no es la deuda absoluta, lo importante es la rápida tendencia a la reducción de la deuda que producen los rendimientos crecientes basados en intangibles que inducen al ahorro de forma sistémica, al tiempo que la microeconomía le quita el control inestable a la macroeconomía.</div>
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... y otros países también a causa "... de un obsoleto modo de pensar de las autoridades" <a href="http://cort.as/5MxQ" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/08/se-exiliaran-los-jovenes-por-un-modo.html">http://cort.as/5MxQ</a> España sigue hundida, pero no tiene que ser así. Con #SESCVA la recesión se va y la crisis tambíen <a href="http://cort.as/5MxR" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/08/la-recesion-se-va-y-la-crisis-puede.html">http://cort.as/5MxR</a></div>
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En la nota 174 Retweets en 1 mes a favor del ahorro de electricidad ( <a href="http://cort.as/5MY5" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/08/200-retweets-en-1-mes-favor-del-ahorro.html">http://cort.as/5MY5</a> ) se presenta un panorama muy distinto al que sugiere el FMI para España y países similares. El FMI supone erróneamente que el crecimiento debe basarse en la energía y los materiales baratos de la revolución en masa, que se basa en los rendimientos decrecientes. Pero resulta que la garantía de la energía barata desapareció en 1972 con el embargo de la OPEC y con ello el sustento de las recetas del FMI. Es evidente que el FMI no es desde entonces capaz de ayudar a la estabilidad, por ejemplo, del déficit de tarifa, que como está comprobado induce al derroche financiero. El crecimiento debe basarse en la garantía de la información barata que induce a considerar el ahorro de energía como la base del crecimiento, empleando la infraestructura de Internet para desarrollar un mercado eléctrico minorista sobresaliente, el cual crece con base en los servicios intangibles que generan rendimientos crecientes.</div>
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Excelente aporte. Como puedes ver en el primer comentario debajo de esta noticia, entiendo que “La espera” que mencionas en el enlace para salir del profundo pozo puede terminar desde que las autoridades cambien su modo de pensar de uno viejo a otro nuevo. En seguimiento a ese comentario que resalta ambos modos de pensar repito de nuevo que "Como se puede ver, por ejemplo, en la nota Participación de la institución del Estado y del FMI en el derroche eléctrico español, las recetas del FMI tuvieron su razón de ser en un mundo donde la energía era barata y la información cara. La gigantesca transformación de la energía cara a la información barata impulsará necesariamente la creación masiva de empleos." Para más detalles pulsar el enlace al blog Grupo Millennium Hispaniola desde el segundo comentario.</div>
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Este es el enlace de la nota "Propuesta que no están esperando los dominicanos, ni los españoles, pero les encantará" <a href="http://cort.as/59wa" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/08/propuesta-que-no-estan-esperando-los.html">http://cort.as/59wa</a> del que resalto el párrafo "Como se puede ver, por ejemplo, en la nota Participación de la institución del Estado y del FMI en el derroche eléctrico español, las recetas del FMI tuvieron su razón de ser en un mundo donde la energía era barata y la información cara. La gigantesca transformación de la energía cara a la información barata impulsará necesariamente la creación masiva de empleos."</div>
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Lo que sigue es parte del contenido de la nota "Propuesta que no están esperando los dominicanos, ni los españoles, pero les encantará," publicada en el Blog GMH sobre creación de empleos. Los gobiernos de República Dominicana y España podrían seguir tratando de resolver sus crisis económicas de forma independiente. Mucho mejor aún, podrían crear una bonanza si lo hacen de forma interdependiente, para empezar a salir de la crisis financiera de sus sectores eléctricos. Lo harían impulsando una competencia de modelos de negocios en el mercado minorista para implantar un servicio eléctrico sobresaliente. Eso solo se puede lograr si las autoridades cambian su modo de pensar de uno viejo a otro nuevo. El viejo está basado en las creencias obsoletas de la producción masiva que permitía la desaparecida garantía de la energía barata por medio de la electricidad orientada al regulador. Ambos países siguen tratando sin éxito de corregir lo que... para seguir leyendo la nota, vayan a http barra barra grupomillenium punto BlogSpot punto com barra 2013/08 barra propuesta-que-no-estan-esperando-los punto html</div>
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Lo que sigue aparece en la nota “Para crear empleos, basta clausurar el FMI” que no es simplemente optimista, sino que como dice Jim Collins debe servir para "enfrentar la dura realidad, sin perder la fe," En momentos en que el gobierno español está por reformar de nuevo su sector eléctrico para enfrentar el déficit de tarifa, el FMI entrega su informe anual sobre España, planteando una rebaja de sueldos del 10% para crear empleos. Siguiendo las sugerencias de la nota “Servicio eléctrico sobresaliente,” para reformar dicho sector y crear empleos no es necesaria esa rebaja de sueldos. Como se puede ver, por ejemplo, en la nota “Participación de la institución del Estado y del FMI en el derroche eléctrico español,” las recetas del FMI tuvieron su razón de ser en un mundo donde la energía era barata y la información cara. La gigantesca transformación de la energía cara a la información barata impulsará necesariamente la creación masiva de empleos. Para ver cualquiera de esas tres notas, entre por favor al Blog http dos puntos barra barra grupomillenium punto blogspot punto com</div>
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Donde dice "reducir ese derroche" debe decir "minimizar ese derroche." Como dice el comentario que argumenta el cambio de la ley, "La tarifa regulada es una aberración en un mundo que cuenta con Internet. Es un contrasentido mantener un retraso (sistémico) de meses cuando el precio real de mercado puede conocerse en pocas horas.". Esa es una de las Fuentes del derroche gigante que se debe minimizar.</div>
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El déficit de tarifa nace de la falsa creencia de la institución del Estado y del FMI en la producción barata de electricidad. Lamentablemente, los precios artificialmente baratos han inducido un derroche acumulado gigante y otras ineficiencias bajo participación activa del Estado. Los costos de ese derroche se socializan entre los consumidores y los contribuyentes, que son obligados a asumir riesgos que crecen con operaciones de capital financiero de corto plazo. Al mismo tiempo, las empresas eléctricas reciben beneficios legalmente adquiridos que son activamente protegidos por el FMI. No es de extrañar en esta noticia que las eléctricas españolas se quejen porque dejarán de ganar. Para reducir ese derroche e introducir rendimientos crecientes es necesario cambiar la ley de electricidad. En ese sentido, debajo de la noticia “La luz sube desde este mes como parte de la reforma energética,” publicada aquí en El País, hay un comentario que argumenta ese cambio de ley para usar la institución del mercado para comercializar electricidad, por ejemplo, vía la infraestructura de Internet.</div>
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Rajoy's promises are a new chapter in a story that repeat itself as another step of what Jim Collins and his research team call the Doom Loop in their book "Good to Great: Why some companies make the leap... and others don't." After being aware that the crisis was a worldwide systemic crisis of the electric power industry, as documented, fr example, in the comment Great electric service <a href="http://cort.as/7829" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://www.energyblogs.com/ewpc/index.cfm/2013/7/22/Great-electric-service">http://cort.as/7829</a> only today I got the inside to explain it in simple ways. In countries like the Dominican Republic, Argentina, India, the contagion effects of the systemic crisis of the electric sector are visible. However, the Doom Loop effects are still hidden in all other countries by the lack of transparency of the pricing system. The opposite of the Good to Great Doom Loop that lead to Great electric service is the Flywheel effect necessary to make the leap. The reason why I can make those assertions can be found through the post "EWPC Blog access to over 300 entries and over 900 comments have resulted in over 850,000 total views" <a href="http://cort.as/782A" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://www.energyblogs.com/ewpc/index.cfm/2013/12/19/More-than-850000-total-views-on-the-EWPC-Blog">http://cort.as/782A</a></div>
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Es necesario aceptar que a nadie se le puede asignar la culpa de una crisis sistémica como la que padecen, por ejemplo, España, Argentina y República Dominicana en sus sectores eléctricos a consecuencia de errores de reestructuración. Vea por favor mis otros comentarios de hoy.</div>
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“La elevación de la productividad del trabajo de servicios no se puede lograr ni por la intervención del gobierno ni por medio de la política. Esa labor la deben hacer los gerentes y ejecutivos de las empresas y de las organizaciones no lucrativas. Esa es la primera responsabilidad social de la sociedad del conocimiento.” Peter F. Drucker, Facetas No. 101 3/1993. El caso de la Argentina y muchos otros países es debido a la reestructuración defectuosa de los mercados eléctricos y por tanto no se resuelve con la reestatización que se basaría en la obsoleta industria verticalmente integrada como acontece en mi país República Dominicana, donde tenemos la combinación de lo peor de esos dos modelos. Se necesita nada menos que un estadista, como pueden ver en el tweet @gmh_upsa - ¿Podrá España dar el ejemplo de solución a la crisis eléctrica global? <a href="http://bit.ly/299GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/299GMH">http://bit.ly/299GMH</a></div>
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He unido y mejorado mis dos comentarios anteriores al elaborar la nota ¿Podrá España dar el ejemplo de solución a la crisis eléctrica global? <a href="http://cort.as/77uE" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://cort.as/77uE">http://cort.as/77uE</a> La pregunta que ahora me hago, después de indicar que esta es una crisis global, es ¿desaprobará España esta gran oportunidad para ser el primer país en resolver la crisis eléctrica que persiste desde 1972, pero que por falta de transparencia permanece escondida en la gran mayoría de los países?</div>
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La causa subyacente de la crisis eléctrica en todo el mundo es la obsoleta integración vertical y peor aun los mercados mayoristas "organizados." La reestructuración de la industria eléctrica global fue diseñada para beneficiar los inversionistas. La falta de transparencia en los precios finales solo sale a relucir durante las crisis sistémicas, como la de España, Argentina y República Dominicana. Todo empezó en 1972 cuando la industria vertical intergrada perdió su razón de ser, al perder la garantía de la energía barata y con ello la responsabilidad al servir en un mundo muy complejo. La industria bien reestructurada puede asumir la responsabilidad de transportar la electricidad, pero el cliente debe hacerse responsable de contratar lo que falta en el mercado, por ejemplo, para autoabastecerse, como el que sugiere la nota Servicio eléctrico sobresaliente <a href="http://bit.ly/081GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/081GMH">http://bit.ly/081GMH</a></div>
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Aunque sea cierto lo que dices, la causa subyacente es otra. La reestructuración de la industria eléctrica global fue diseñada para beneficiar los inversionistas. La falta de transparencia en los precios finales solo sale a relucir durante las crisis sistémicas.</div>
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Lo que sucede en Argentina es lo mismo que sucede en España, en Dominicana y en todo el mundo, que sale a relucir bajo una crisis sistémica. La industria perdió la capacidad de la responsabilidad a servir, pero la reestructuración defectuosa. Hay que reestructurar correctamente.</div>
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De lo que se trata es una crisis sistémica de grandes proporciones, como la crisis bancaria de la Gran Depresión. Esas crisis requieren la toma de decisión de un estadista como se sugiere en este enlace <a href="http://cort.as/70AK" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/12/seria-asi-como-un-estadista-refomaria.html">http://cort.as/70AK</a></div>
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Pero es no es una liberación del mercado. Es una liberación de la oferta dejando que la demanda carezca de elasticidad que no origina ninguna innovación. La diferencia con un organismo de regulación de precios es permanecer en un ciclo fatal. En ambos casos se trata de un servicio mediocre. Lo que se necesita es tomar conciencia para responder la nota ¿Sería así como un estadista refomaría el sector eléctrico? <a href="http://cort.as/70AK" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/12/seria-asi-como-un-estadista-refomaria.html">http://cort.as/70AK</a></div>
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El problema es la ley de electricidad que está diseñada para proteger la inversión extranjera sin que se impulse la innovación. La nacionalización tampoco va a producir innovación y mucho menos competencia. Lo que se necesita aparece en la nota Propuesta que no están esperando los dominicanos, ni los españoles, pero les encantará <a href="http://cort.as/59wa" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/08/propuesta-que-no-estan-esperando-los.html">http://cort.as/59wa</a></div>
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¡Gracias! Me puede dar un enlace de noticia. En Dominicana la distribución privada ya fue una verdadera calamidad. El problema está en las leyes de los mercados mayoristas incompletos. Lo que se necesita se explica en la nota Servicio eléctrico sobresaliente <a href="http://cort.as/5bn_" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/07/servicio-electrico-sobresaliente.html">http://cort.as/5bn_</a></div>
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lalala1, la receta para salir del laberinto que le mencioné a Marcos, no es más gobierno. Nosotros lo hicimos y es peor. Al igual en dominicana, deben responder ¿Sería así como un estadista refomaría el sector eléctrico? <a href="http://cort.as/70AK" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/12/seria-asi-como-un-estadista-refomaria.html">http://cort.as/70AK</a></div>
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Marcos: al igual que ustedes los dominicanos hemos sido metidos en un laberinto <a href="http://cort.as/77BL" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2012/09/el-laberinto-electrico-espanol.html">http://cort.as/77BL</a></div>
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Reitero la nota "Cambiemos las recetas de la troica @el_pais por la institución del mercado" <a href="http://cort.as/756N" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/12/debajo-de-la-noticia-de-el-pais-las.html">http://cort.as/756N</a></div>
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¿Será que la constitución de los Estados Unidos y la de la gran mayoría de los países, por no decir todos, fueron diseñadas para países independientes, cuando ahora vivimos en un mundo interdependiente? Eso estuvo muy bien durante la civilización industrial, pero resulta que a pesar de que el mundo ya cambió grandemente, todos esos países siguen esperando que el futuro sea una continuación del pasado. Para resolver el paro en Estados Unidos, en España y en otros países, hacer falta que dialoguemos, por ejemplo, sobre la nota "Cambiemos las recetas de la troica @el_pais por la institución del mercado" <a href="http://cort.as/756N" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/12/debajo-de-la-noticia-de-el-pais-las.html">http://cort.as/756N</a></div>
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Cuando Carlota Pérez dice "Las condiciones que favorecen la intervención del Estado para dar forma a los mercados aún no están maduras, pero hay tendencias que apuntan en esa dirección," es que hay mercados y mercados. Por ejemplo, está el mercado mayorista del sector eléctrico, que es un mercado organizado para proteger los intereses de las eléctricas grandes. Pues la solución a esa situación es un mercado completo en que los mercados mayorista y minorista se refuerzan mutuamente, como se explica en la nota Servicio eléctrico sobresaliente <a href="http://cort.as/5bn_" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/07/servicio-electrico-sobresaliente.html">http://cort.as/5bn_</a></div>
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En "Unleashing a golden age after the financial collapse: Drawing lessons from history," Carlota Pérez dijo que ► La recesión posterior a la burbuja actual es más parecida a la de la década de 1930 que a la de la década de 1980 . ► La recuperación económica requiere medidas proactivas equivalentes al Estado de Bienestar , Bretton Woods y el New Deal . ► Para ser eficaz, la regulación de las finanzas globalizadas debe ser supranacional y superar la opacidad. ► " El crecimiento verde " no es sólo para salvar el planeta , pero también es probablemente la ruta más efectiva para salvar la economía . ► Las condiciones que favorecen la intervención del Estado para dar forma a los mercados aún no están maduras, pero hay tendencias que apuntan en esa dirección. <a href="http://cort.as/74h1" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2210422412000743">http://cort.as/74h1</a></div>
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Parace que el gobierno no ha entendido que la crisis sistémica del sector eléctrico ha resultado en una sobre expansión de la demanda eléctrica por precios "asequibles" que a su vez impulsan el déficit de tarifa. Para corregir la situación es necesario incentivar inversiones en la reducción del consumo de electricidad de las edificaciones, lo cual daría como resultado un aumento de dos o tres años en el empleo. Dicho cambio se debe hacer conforme se explica en la nota "El País: "La reforma eléctrica se complica cada vez más" <a href="http://cort.as/71ce" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/12/el-pais-la-reforma-electrica-se.html">http://cort.as/71ce</a></div>
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"La reforma eléctrica se complica cada vez más" lo dice todo. Todo porque se confirma que el sector eléctrico español cumple a cabalidad y reiteradamente las condiciones de una organización mediocre. En seguimiento a mis comentarios a dos noticias anteriores de este medio (El País), " Las eléctricas sufren en Bolsa el impacto de las enmiendas a la reforma" y " Bruselas avisa que el alza de la deuda eléctrica es un “problema importante," los inivto a leer la nota ¿Sería así como un estadista refomaría el sector eléctrico? <a href="http://cort.as/70AK" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/12/seria-asi-como-un-estadista-refomaria.html">http://cort.as/70AK</a></div>
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Integré mi comentario anterior a la noticia relacionada "Las eléctricas sufren en Bolsa el impacto de las enmiendas a la reforma," para producir la nota "¿Sería así como un estadista refomaría el sector eléctrico?" <a href="http://cort.as/70AK" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/12/seria-asi-como-un-estadista-refomaria.html">http://cort.as/70AK</a></div>
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Los líderes europeos son mediocres, porque mantienen la Eurozona en un Ciclo Fatal. Los paises deben volverse interdependedientes como dice el trino: @gmh_upsa · Un referéndum virtual: decir SI para reemplazar político mediocre con gran estadista <a href="http://bit.ly/534GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/534GMH">http://bit.ly/534GMH</a> #EuropeIN</div>
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El problema no está en el número de naciones y tampoco en querer independencia. Mira cuantos son en la Eurozona. Para que se enteren, miren el trino @gmh_upsa · Un referéndum virtual: decir SI para reemplazar político mediocre con gran estadista <a href="http://bit.ly/534GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/534GMH">http://bit.ly/534GMH</a> #EuropeIN</div>
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Bien dicho. Nadie quiere ser dependiente. Y tampoco funciona aquello de querer ser independiente, como quieren algunos .Mira por favor el trino @gmh_upsa · Un referéndum virtual: decir SI para reemplazar político mediocre con gran estadista <a href="http://bit.ly/534GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/534GMH">http://bit.ly/534GMH</a> #EuropeIN.</div>
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Si que suena desafinado. Basado en tu comentario es probable que te interese el artículo "¿Estará la corrupción sistémica llevando la Eurozona a la Segunda Edad Media? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/486GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/486GMH">http://bit.ly/486GMH</a> )." Su cita introductoria dice así: "El problema central de la economía no es de equilibrio, sino el cambio estructural. Esto llevó luego al famoso teorema de Schumpeter sobre el innovador como el verdadero sujeto de la economía. " “… cada vez es más claro que es Schumpeter quien dará forma al pensamiento e informará las preguntas de la teoría económica y la política económica para el resto de este siglo, si no fuera por los próximos 30 o 50 años.” -- Peter Drucker, “Schumpeter y Keynes,” 23 de mayo de 1983.</div>
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El problema del enfrentamiento viene porque siguen pensando como parte de la civilización industrial que prácticamente ha perdido la fuerza para generar empleo. Ese enfrentamiento desaparece en Francia y mucho más importante en la Unión si se cambia el debate a un diálogo generativo como sugiere el trino: @gmh_upsa · Cumbre en Eurozona @el_pais para pasar a la civilización sistémica #EuropeIN <a href="http://bit.ly/480GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/480GMH">http://bit.ly/480GMH</a> que se inicia con la cita "Un propósito y principios simples y claros dan lugar a un comportamiento complejo e inteligente. Reglas y regulaciones complejas dan lugar a un comportamiento simple y estúpido." -- Dee Hock, el CEO Emerito de VISA Internacional</div>
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En la nota “Emerge la civilización sistémica ( <a href="http://cort.as/G13M" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://cort.as/G13M">http://cort.as/G13M</a> )” explico como con la institución del mercado de esa civilización emergente se pueden cumplir la gran mayoría de las promesas de los políticos que no se pueden cumplir en la civilización industrial.</div>
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Los sistemas defectuosos crean sus propias crisis. No importa a quien pongan a administrar los resultados son prácticamente los mismos: el ciclo fatal. Como en otros países, la reestructuración del 1997 simplemente estaba destinada a deteriorarse. Lo que hace falta es cambiar el sistema a uno que garantice un Servicio eléctrico sobresaliente. Repito de nuevo la pregunta que he venido haciendo en mis comentarios en El País: ¿Podrá España dar el ejemplo de solución a la crisis eléctrica global? <a href="http://cort.as/77uE" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://cort.as/77uE">http://cort.as/77uE</a></div>
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El artículo "The shocking price of Spanish electricity ( El precio impactante de la electricidad española) publicado en la edición en inglés de El País, dice que ", es difícil señalar con el dedo a un solo culpable por el lío en que se encuentra el sector." En respuesta coloqué un comentario, cuya traducción dice que "Sí ... Es una crisis sistémica, donde la causa y el efecto, por definición, no están cercanos en el tiempo y el espacio. Ese es el tipo de explicación que intenté introducir en el post en inglés, cuya traducción dice que La falta de apalancamiento sistémico en la industria de la energía eléctrica mundial se debe al "ciclo fatal" <a href="http://cort.as/7870" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://cort.as/7870">http://cort.as/7870</a></div>
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Yes "it is hard to point the finger at any single culprit for the mess the sector is in." It is a systemic crisis, where cause and effect are by definition not close in time and space. That's the kind of explanation I tried to introduced in the post Lack of systemic leverage in the global electric power industry is due to the "Doom Loop" <a href="http://cort.as/7870" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://www.energyblogs.com/ewpc/index.cfm/2013/12/20/Lack-of-systemic-leverage-in-the-global-electric-power-industry-is-due-to-the-Doom-Loop">http://cort.as/7870</a></div>
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The problem is no just addressed by eliminating corruption. This is a wicked problem which gets worse as it invites corruption. There is no cause and effect explanation available for wicked or systemic problems, because cause and effect are not closed in time and space. They way to address such problems is through systems architecting, which is what I tried to explain through the introdution of my first comment. osé Antonio Vanderhorst-Silverio, PhD. Consulting engineer on electric sector systems architecting.</div>
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Hay dos cosas que se puede hacer debatir para aprender del pasado y dialogar para aprender del futuro emergente. Yo empleo mi tiempo en el segundo. Te invito a que mires las notas que he escrito al respecto relativas a la crisis sistémica del sector eléctrico <a href="http://cort.as/5ZtU" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/">http://cort.as/5ZtU</a></div>
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Mi concepción es que hace falta reestructurar correctamente para abrir la industria a la innovación y a la competencia. Vea por favor la nota Servicio electrico sobresaliente <a href="http://cort.as/5bn_" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/07/servicio-electrico-sobresaliente.html">http://cort.as/5bn_</a></div>
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¿Y por qué no innovación YAAAAA? Al repecto mira la nota La Ley de Electricidad es la culpable de las crisis en Dominicana, California, España, Argentina <a href="http://cort.as/79db" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/12/la-ley-de-electricidad-es-la-culpable.html">http://cort.as/79db</a></div>
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En la traducción al Inglés de tu artículo "Las eléctricas preparan la guerra al Gobierno tras el freno al ‘tarifazo’," dije que el resultado de la subasta no es el problema fundamental. Ese resultado, que puede ser perfectamente legal, es solo un síntoma de un problema subyacente, que es una crisis sistémica global de los mercados mayoristas. Al respecto, sugerí ver la nota Lack of systemic leverage in the global electric power industry is due to the "Doom Loop" <a href="http://cort.as/7870" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://cort.as/7870">http://cort.as/7870</a> José Antonio Vanderhorst-Silverio, PhD. Consulting engineer on electric sector systems architecting.</div>
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The result of the auction is not the fundamental problem. That result, which could be perfectly legal, is just a symptom of the underlying problem, which is a systemic crisis of global wholesale "organized" markets. Please take a look at the post Lack of systemic leverage in the global electric power industry is due to the "Doom Loop" <a href="http://cort.as/7870" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://www.energyblogs.com/ewpc/index.cfm/2013/12/20/Lack-of-systemic-leverage-in-the-global-electric-power-industry-is-due-to-the-Doom-Loop">http://cort.as/7870</a> José Antonio Vanderhorst-Silverio, PhD. Consulting engineer on electric sector systems architecting.</div>
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Me faltó agregar lo más importante. Solamente en manos privadas se podrá lograr el apalancamiento sistémico que se necesita lograr por medio de la innovación. Para que el todo deje de ser menor que la suma de las partes, falta organizar una competencia de modelos de negocios.</div>
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La gran mayoría de la gente está convencida que Enron "la eléctrica estadounidense que provocó el caos energético en California aprovechándose del furor desregularizador" fue claramente el principal culpable de la situación. Definifitivamente que Enron se encontró en un río revuelto y pudo tomar el rol de pezcador. No obstante, tanto en California, España, Argentina, República Dominicana, donde es visible la crisis de los mercados mayoristas, no es posible emplear explicaciones causa efecto, porque esas crisis son sistémicas producto de un sistema legal inestable. En las crisis sistémicas la causa y el efecto se encuentran alejadas en el tiempo o en el espacio. En ese caso es el sistema el que provoca la crisis, en este caso la Ley de Electricidad. Todos los lugares donde existen mercados mayorista tienen también el potencial de volverse inestables de la noche a la mañana. ¿Quiere esto decir que debemos volver a la estatización? Definitivamente no! Lo que hay que hacer es completar el mercado como se explica en la nota ¿Sería así como un estadista refomaría el sector eléctrico?<a href="http://cort.as/70AK" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://grupomillenium.blogspot.com/2013/12/seria-asi-como-un-estadista-refomaria.html">http://cort.as/70AK</a></div>
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Maximizan ganancias y achican costos porque la reestructuración es defectuosa, con una excesiva falta de transparencia. Saludos por igual.</div>
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Definitivamente que hace falta una profunda reforma. Esa gran reforma la he venido humildemente definiendo desde 1996, cuando se me contrató para que ofreciera la solución a la crisis de mi país República Dominicana. Encontré que el problema no era local, sino internacional. Desde entonces descubrí que se trata de una crisis sistémica de carácter global. La banca multilateral asegura los beneficios de los inversionistas con mercados "organizados," incompletos y defectuosos que destruyen valor económico. Lo que se necesita es un mercado completo y totalmente funcional en que el mercado minorista y el mayorista se refuerzan mutuamente de forma sinérgica para agregar mucho valor económico. Para no alargar la historia, además de ver los comentarios que he realizado en este medio y en Twitter en la cuenta @gmh_upsa, vean por favor una introducción en menos de 300 palabras (que resume comentarios que hice debajo de la noticia " El Congreso acepta el proyecto de ley de la reforma eléctrica") en la nota "¿Podrá España dar el ejemplo de solución a la crisis eléctrica global?" <a href="http://cort.as/77uE" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://cort.as/77uE">http://cort.as/77uE</a></div>
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Concuerdo que lo que está en juego es el mecanismo de precio, que es una parte integral de un sistema abusivo que carece de apalancamiento sistémico positivo. Cabe responder si en verdad ¿se trata de un mercado serio? O si ¿deberá anularse el sistema de la Ley de Electricidad como un todo? Para conocimiento de Londres, someto a su consideración en su idioma la nota Lack of systemic leverage in the global electric power industry is due to the "Doom Loop" <a href="http://cort.as/7870" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://www.energyblogs.com/ewpc/index.cfm/2013/12/20/Lack-of-systemic-leverage-in-the-global-electric-power-industry-is-due-to-the-Doom-Loop">http://cort.as/7870</a></div>
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Es importante resaltar que este asunto no se trata de forma, ni de fondo, sino de trasfondo. El trasfondo es que el mundo cambió y dejó detras las luchas independentistas. Ejemplo, "Intercambio con Pepa del Toro sobre la transformación constitucional ( <a href="http://bit.ly/566GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/566GMH">http://bit.ly/566GMH</a> )."</div>
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Pero no hay que ser creyente para imaginarse lo que le pasaría a una proporción de esos 9.4 billones de dólares al PIB mundial que irían a para a las arcas de dichos vampiros del sector privado, si se mantiene la corrupción sistémica global.</div>
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Hablando en serio sobre los mercados que tienen a algunos países de la Eurozona en total desgracia, dime que te parece la sugerencia que aparece (no es vacía como aparentemente crees) en la nota "Propuesta al G20 para impulsar la democracia directa ( <a href="http://bit.ly/541GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/541GMH">http://bit.ly/541GMH</a> )."</div>
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Parece que deseas que la 2da Edad Media dure 3,000 años. Pero tenemos la posibilidad no similar a la de "Dios es la respuesta de todo," que persistió durante la 1ra Edad Media. Esos fueron los tiempos de la dependencia, que luego dieron lugar a las luchas por la independencia.</div>
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Puede que sea metafórico, ¿pero vacío? No señor. Lo que si está vacío es la corrupción sistémica con la que los mecados mediocres los están llevándo muchos de ustedes a la 2da Edad Media.</div>
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El problema es que España no puede seguir siendo un Estado independiente en un mundo altamente interdependiente donde la democracia representativa está en una crisis que es mejor enfrentar lo más pronto posible. En la medida en que Catalunya, Escocia y otros territorios se unan para reclamar una Eurozona con una constitución in(ter)dependiente, donde gobierne la sabiduría, en vez de las finanzas, encontrarán la salida a la crisis cada uno de los Estados miembros que parecen ser los perdedores, por el empleo de un sentido común Cartesiano obsoleto, pero que realmente no lo son. Todos esos Estados necesitan constituciones de países interdependientes a imagen de la Eurozona. No obstante, España podría servir de modelo a la Eurozona, si así se acuerda. En este sentido, por ejemplo, sugiero que vean la nota "La In(ter)dependencia responde a lo que le preocupa a la gente ( <a href="http://bit.ly/574GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/574GMH">http://bit.ly/574GMH</a> )."</div>
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Gracias al valioso intercambio que sostuvimos, acabo de lanzar el siguiente tweet: @gmh_upsa · La In(ter)dependencia responde en todas partes (no solo en Catalunya) a lo que le preocupa a la gente <a href="http://bit.ly/574GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/574GMH">http://bit.ly/574GMH</a> #EuropeIN</div>
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¡Muchas gracias! Me encantó tu explicación. Todos los problemas que mencionas como ejemplos que les preocupan a los españoles son problemas perversos (sistémicos) generados precisamente por el obsoleto sentido común Cartesiano independentista de la civilización industrial.</div>
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Cuando se ve con el sentido común de la civilización sistémica, deja ser un problema de la democracias representativa y puede pasarse a la democracia directa. Es un problema de la humanidad que nos compete a cada uno de nosotros ser interdependientes.</div>
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Es muy probable que esa sea la dirección que debemos tomar para ir al escenario de la nueva Edad Dorada y así poder entonces evitar el escenario de la 2da Edad Media. Mira, por ejemplo, la nota "Caminemos con capital productivo de largo plazo (<a href="http://bit.ly/408GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/408GMH">http://bit.ly/408GMH</a> )."</div>
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¡Gracias!. Vuelvo y trato de sintentizar lo que dicen dicha nota y sus 6 actualizaciones: el mundo cambió; estos no son tiempos de independencia, sino de interdependencia. Las negociaciones deben ser para que todos tengan la posibilidad de ganar o no debe haber trato.</div>
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El problema que tienen todos los países que dicen ser independientes en un mundo altamente interdependiente es el proceso de desintegración que impulsan sus constituciones. Esto le compete a todos los ciudadanos. Esa desintegración los está llevando hacia una 2da Edad Media.</div>
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Correpción ya que el enlace anterior fue sustituido al hacer las actualizaciones a "¿Por qué no cambiar el referéndum catalán a uno in(ter)dependentista? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/570GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/570GMH">http://bit.ly/570GMH</a> ).</div>
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Aclaro a que me refiero. Desde el punto de vista legal si que tienen un gran problema integración, no solo con los catalanes, aunque sean minorías. Considera por favor. la nota "¿Por qué no cambiar el referéndum catalán a uno in(ter)dependentista? (<a href="http://bit.ly/570GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/570GMH">http://bit.ly/570GMH</a> ).</div>
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Gracias, a lo mejor están integrados a la misma tierra, pero no están reintegrados en el sentido común Peirciano que es el que conviene. Ver por favor mi comentario a vado.</div>
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Gracias por comentar. Lo que pasa es que bloombergview, al igual que España y Catalunya, emplea el obsoleto sentido común Cartesiano (separatista) de la independencia, en un mundo altamente interdependiente. La única opción lógica es la in(ter)dependencia que requiere que den el giro de 180 grados en el sentido común Peirciano (ver artículos) integracionista.</div>
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Ayer desarrollé la "sugerencia para Mariano Rajoy y Artur Mas por una España in(ter)dependiente ( <a href="http://bit.ly/570GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/570GMH">http://bit.ly/570GMH</a> )" Hoy mi pregunta es igualmente profunda y está sintetizada con el Tweet siguiente: @gmh_upsa - ¿Podrán Rajoy, Mas, o los dos, dar el giro de 180 grados necesario para reintegrar a los españoles...? <a href="http://bit.ly/572GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/572GMH">http://bit.ly/572GMH</a> #EuropeIN</div>
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Las diferencias entre España y Catalunya están basadas en un sentido común Cartesiano defectuoso y obsoleto. No se puede pelear por independencia. Deben integrarse via la siguiente sugerencia para Mariano Rajoy y Artur Mas por una España in(ter)dependiente <a href="http://bit.ly/570GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/570GMH">http://bit.ly/570GMH</a></div>
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El señor Pérez Royo tiene razón al usar el sentido común obsoleto y defectuoso para seguir aumentando la desigualdad. En sentido sugiero que vean la siguiente nota "Los referéndums in(ter)dependentistas están aquí para quedarse ( <a href="http://bit.ly/536GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/536GMH">http://bit.ly/536GMH</a> )," con que le respondo.</div>
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The two questions asked to "several people who joined the 15-M protests, and are now either members or witnesses to the birth of new political parties," keep the opportunity space of responses centered on representative democracy politics. So here is a third question that opens a huge space for digital natives: What about the emergence of great capitalism (with win-win opportunities for all) with great markets where servant system leaders develop direct democracy platforms to replace good capitalism (with winning opportunities for a few)? Please consider the post "Can 10 questions above politics help forecast a new world order in 2015? (<a href="http://bit.ly/681GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/681GMH">http://bit.ly/681GMH</a> )</div>
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Si la civilización industrial reduce empleos ¿debería el sector laboral tener propuesta en el <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="1875891036" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/PactosRD" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">PactosRD</span></a>? <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/799GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/pNZreFbtnK" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/799GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/799GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a><a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a></div>
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Mari carmen de miguel angulo De miguel<a class="respondea" href="https://www.blogger.com/null" id="enlacemostrarrespuesta_1431960112-77300cad446ea7341ee639ae2a685ca6" style="background: url("/Iconos/v1.x/v1.0/sprite_neutro.png") 1px -744px no-repeat transparent; border: 0.1em solid rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #777777; cursor: pointer; display: inline-block; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; height: 1.5em; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.5em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: middle; width: 2em;" title="Ver mensaje al que responde"></a></div>
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A mi no solo me suena a gatopardo, he estudiado a fondo la crisis sistémica del sector eléctrico y no me cabe ninguna duda que es gatopardo. En vez de más regulación, lo que se necesita es una regulación minimalista para pasar de los mercados mediocres con regulaciones a la medida del statu quo, donde unos pocos tienen la protección para asegurar qque ganan, a los mercados sobresalientes y competitivos que le dan a todos la oportunidad de ganar. A seguidas coloco el enlace del comentario que coloqué el 14 de diciembre del 2013 debajo de la noticia de El País “Las recetas de la troika son las adecuadas” <a href="http://bit.ly/293GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/293GMH">http://bit.ly/293GMH</a></div>
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En seguimiento al comentario anterior, sigan por favor esa conversación que ahora tiene un tweet de @DuniaDW2 y dos tweets mios más</div>
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1). El petróleo barato que puede volver a ser caro <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="26509311" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/DuniaDW2" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">DuniaDW2</span></a><a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="7996082" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/el_pais" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">el_pais</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="16018284" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/giovannida" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">giovannida</span></a> reafirma la pérdida de la garantía de la energía barata.</div>
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2) La revolución <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="26509311" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/DuniaDW2" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">DuniaDW2</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="7996082" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/el_pais" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">el_pais</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="16018284" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/giovannida" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">giovannida</span></a> cambia política por un mercado que resuelve su falla con garantía de la información barata.</div>
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Alerta Tweet #1: @giovannida - "@DuniaDW2: .. via @el_pais " Ojo @gmh_upsa a propósito #PactoEléctrico -- Respuesta Tweet #2: @gmh_upsa - Gracias @giovannida | Siguen ofuscados con política energía, cuando deben abrir a la innovación sus mercados de energía @DuniaDW2 @el_pais</div>
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A tu orden Juan Bernardo. Definitivamente estos medios tienen potencialidades y limitaciones. Uso Blogger para escribir notas y Twitter para distribuirlas con la idea de que intelectuales las examinen y decidan si se le reenvían a sus contactos. Respondí tu comentario. ¡Saludos!</div>
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A tu orden Juan Bernardo. Definitivamente estos medios tienen potencialidades y limitaciones. Uso Blogger para escribir notas y Twitter para distribuirlas con la idea de que intelectuales las examinen y decidan si se le reenvían a sus contactos. Respondí tu comentario. ¡Saludos!</div>
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Te respondí con el trino (tweet): @gmh_upsa · ¡Gracias! @quisieramontejb Necesitamos líderes #Jobsism auténticos <a href="http://bit.ly/602GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/602GMH">http://bit.ly/602GMH</a> para atraer las inversiones via @el_pais #EuropeIN</div>
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Vean por favor el comentario que realicé en respuesta al artículo "La década perdida de Europa y el peligro de un futuro incierto ( <a href="http://bit.ly/598GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/598GMH">http://bit.ly/598GMH</a> )," escrito por Adrian Calvo. "Mi parecer es que en Japón el status quo no ha dejado que llegue el cambio de civilización que predijo Alvin Toffler con la Tercera Ola y que sostengo es la civilización sistémica, en cuya primera revolución tecnológica se entra con el sentido común del Jobsismo (gran influencia de Steve Jobs) para reemplazar el del Fordismo (gran influencia de Henry Ford). En ese sentido, la tesis que ofreces sobre la similitud de la década perdida japonesa con la europea y la norteamericana podría ser en este caso perfecta." Basado en el resumen del lanzamiento del Global Forum Peter Drucker 2014, "O bien el mundo se embarcará en una ruta hacia el crecimiento y la prosperidad a largo plazo, o vamos a manejar nuestra ruta de declive económico," concluyo con que "de ser posible dicha transformación, entonces sigo insistiendo en que la Eurozona tendría la mejor oportunidad para evitar el peligro del futuro incierto que anticipas."</div>
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No hay tal condena, si cambian sentido común. Considera (si crees oportuno dar Retuit mucho mejor si puedes) por favor el Tuit: @gmh_upsa · Actualización: aunque está en la civilización sistémica, felicitemos a Angela Merkel sobre #empleojuvenil <a href="http://bit.ly/585GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/585GMH">http://bit.ly/585GMH</a> #EuropeIN</div>
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De acuerdo. ¡Abrazos!</div>
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Dicha civilización es sistémica porque responde con apalancamiento sistémico positivo, como todos pueden ganar o no debe haber trato, que sugirió el finado Steve Covey. Por ejemplo, mira "La In(ter)dependencia responde a lo que le preocupa a la gente ( <a href="http://bit.ly/574GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/574GMH">http://bit.ly/574GMH</a> )."</div>
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Gracias ya los vi. No quiero dar a entender que tengo todas las respuestas en mi blog. Sin embargo, antes de considerar la tesis Blyth y Lonergan es esencial cambiar los incentivos a los bienes tangibles por los de los bienes intangibles que requiere el cambio de civilización.</div>
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Respondiendo a tu interesante comentario, de las muchas notas, selecciono y te invito a leer "De la EcoNoMía del capitalismo salvaje a la EcoSiNuestra del capitalismo humanista ( <a href="http://bit.ly/491GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/491GMH">http://bit.ly/491GMH</a> )" y "El fin de la Paradoja del Estado feliz ( <a href="http://bit.ly/504GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/504GMH">http://bit.ly/504GMH</a> )?"</div>
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Concuerdo totalmente Juan Bernardo con tu comentario. Es el problema de la educación dentro de fábricas, que pudo tener sentido por muchos años, pero que dejo de tener sentido hace muchos otros años. Es el dinero por encima de la sabiduría a ser cambiado y pronto. ¡¡¡Saludos!!!</div>
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Gracias Juan Bernardo. Soy José Antonio. @gmh_upsa es mi cuenta de Twitter. Tu interpretación de la situación es muy buena. La educación necesita cambiar para que podamos aprender del futuro emergente, con lo que sugiero se llame "Abduciría ( <a href="http://bit.ly/511GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/511GMH">http://bit.ly/511GMH</a> )." ¡Saludos!</div>
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El sentido común de la civilización industrial fue invertir en bienes tangibles de infraestructura, pero los países que lo lograron se pasaron de la raya. Las infraestructuras necesitan ser intangibles, como el Internet, para retomar el equilibrio de los ecosistemas mundiales...</div>
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Juan Bernardo: buenos comentarios sobre la tiranía del FMI. Mira empezando con la nota "El empleo juvenil está en la civilización sistémica ( <a href="http://bit.ly/585GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/585GMH">http://bit.ly/585GMH</a> )." porque necesitamos cerrar el FMI, así como porque los gobiernos no tienen capacidad para resolver la crisis.</div>
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Según Francis Fukuyama, en su artículo "América en decadencia," el sistema de la Unión Europea sigue esa misma decadencia. Para salir de ella, la Eurozona necesita seguir la sugerencia de la nota "Agenda para transformar la civilización en sistémica (<a href="http://bit.ly/578GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/578GMH">http://bit.ly/578GMH</a> ),"</div>
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Los que piensan que la revolución consistirá en desenchufarse y asociarse (a título individual) al sol están promoviendo lo que los dominicanos vivimos en los años 90 cuando penetraron los inversores a batería y que denominé el mercado Sálvese Quien Pueda (SQP). Más recientemente reconocí que lo que emergió en ese entonces fue un ecosistema SQP, que fue bloqueado con la reestructuración del mercado eléctrico, que abrió de par en par la puerta giratoria de lo que reconoci hace poco como la corrupción sistémica. Desde entonces he venido estudiando la crisis sistémica del sector eléctrico y las dos últimas actualizaiones, "Quinta actuaización: Investigación antií-corrupción sistémica puede empezar con autoconsumo de luz con baterías." y "Sexta actualización: "El arreglo del déficit no es materia de expertos en regulación." El Pacto Eléctrico debe estar por encima de la política," de la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará ( <a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )," llevan al desarrollo de un vibrante mercado sobresaliente.</div>
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Los cuatro comentarios que escribí, el 3ro de los cuales respondiste, han sido integrados en la "Sexta actualización: "El arreglo del déficit no es materia de expertos en regulación." El Pacto Eléctrico debe estar por encima de la política," de la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará ( <a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )." A la misma agrego que a pesar de ser verdad, tu comentario mantiene abierta de par en par la puerta giratoria de la corrupción sistémica.</div>
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Muchas gracias por tu comentario que me permite ampliar mi 1er comentario y también reflejar la diferencia entre las colaboraciones de cantidad con las de calidad. Como puedes ver en el texto principal de la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará ( <a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )," empleas "el segundo nivel de explicación, sobre patrones de conducta," que se corresponde a una colaboración de cantidad. Sin embargo, el que empleo "nos acerca a la cruda realidad de la interdependencia, se concentra en la pregunta crucial ¿Qué causa los patrones de conducta? que también se hizo Senge. Su respuesta está en el “tercer nivel de explicación, el ‘estructural,’ es el menos común y el más potente.” Esta se corresponde con una colaboración de calidad que está por encima de la política.</div>
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Invito comentarios a cualquiera de mis tres comentarios debajo de esta noticia. El caso de Aznar es excelente ejemplo de la corrupción sistémica que introduje en 1er comentario, que en parte sugiere la necesidad de colaboraciones de calidad versus colaboraciones de cantidad. De la nota de mi 2do comentario, extraigo que "el Dr. Pérez-Arriaga dice que: “El arreglo del déficit no es materia de expertos en regulación: no tiene solución técnica, sino política… Los políticos, que crearon el déficit, deberán reunirse –aunque sea, por última vez, a puerta cerrada– entre ellos y con las empresas y consumidores, y encontrar una salida pragmática que minimice daños.” Ciertamente los políticos crearon el déficit, pero ¿no será que lo hicieron inducidos por el defectuoso sistema del modelo eléctrico que no anticipó 'la forma como los usuarios compran electricidad'?" Ciertamente los expertos de regulación no tienen respuesta, pero como se ha visto tampoco la tienen los políticos. La propuesta que diseñé está por encima de la política y aparece en la petición <a href="http://bit.ly/827GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/827GMH">http://bit.ly/827GMH</a></div>
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" (que a ese precio también desconectarán y comprarán la electricidad sobrante de los vecinos)." Eso no es posible para los consumidores regulados. El problema no es de ahora. Es de la reforma que reestructuró la industria eléctrica en los años 90. Por ejemplo, lee la nota de diciembre del 2012 "Dr. Pérez-Arriaga: 'Eso vendría después.' (<a href="http://bit.ly/GMH823" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/GMH823">http://bit.ly/GMH823</a> )." que empieza diciendo: "Escrito por el Dr. José Ignacio Pérez-Arriaga, el periódico El País publicó, el 14 de diciembre de 2012, el muy oportuno artículo Reformas eléctricas. Es muy oportuno, por las grandes similitudes entre la crisis del sector eléctrico de España y la de otros países." Después de eso, lee por favor mi primer comentario que demuestra que la reforma del 90 fue la que indujo el déficit de tarifa que es posible solo gracias a la corrupción sistémica internacional., Es restructurando para eliminar la corrupción sistémica como se resuelven las dos grandes tareas pendientes que identificó el Dr. José Ignacio Pérez-Arriaga.</div>
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Favor considerar la "Quinta actuaización: Investigación antií-corrupción sistémica puede empezar con autoconsumo de luz con baterías" de la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará ( <a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )."</div>
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Muy buena respuesta a Juan Alvaro. Por eso creo que le podría interesar conocer la conversación en Twitter (con notas a la que accede via tuits) que al momento tiene 21 tuits, que se inició el 28 de abril y que puede ver en su totalidad pulsando el siguiente enlace que muestra solamente los últimos dos tuits, que son la 4ta y 5ta actualización de la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará. Esa 5ta actualización responde directamente a este artículo.</div>
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Esta es la introducción a la "Tercera actualización: ¿Repetirá China el mismo error que cometió al ignorar por decisión política el inicio de una nueva civilización?" de la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará ( <a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )." Conforme a la noticia "China quiere cambiar producción barata por innovación y tecnología," (esta noticia) “Made in China 2025 es la primera parte de un plan que finaliza el 2049, año que se cumplirá el centenario de la fundación de la República Popular China.” Ejecutando planes de forma muy exitosa, China ha venido siguiendo un proceso de industrialización acelerada. En efecto esos planes se basan en que el futuro es una continuación del pasado con su entrada tardía en la civilización industrial.</div>
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¿Estará Martin Wolf seguro de que "ha advertido de que el país 'nunca entrará en la eurozona'?" Puede tener mucha razón con base a las tendencias actuales, pensando todavía que el futuro seguirá siendo una continuación del pasado. Sin embargo, en la primera actualización de la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará ( <a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )," cuyo título es "¿Es seguro retrasar el problema de la acción del cambio climático? ¿Puede la reestructuración eléctrica disolverlo?," entiendo que debería cambiar de opinión, dado que el futuro no es por mucho una continuación del pasado. ¿Podrá España contribuir a transformar la Unión Europea para que las necesidades de los Nativos Digitales del mundo que pronto serán la población económicamente activa puedan sumar en vez de dividir?</div>
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Favor ver (y a lo mejor actuar en) la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará ( <a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )."</div>
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I find that "Upset victory in Barcelona by social activist weakens independence drive" very interesting." because we live in times where a declaration of interdependence needs to be considered. I suggest to review actions in terms of systemic leverage, meaning enabling institutional innovations. For example, what will be the systemic leverage of taxes, contract negotiations, and all sorts of plans when systemic corruption comes from multilateral institutions. To eliminate systemic corruption, please consider that while Capitalism based on Neoliberalism must die, Great Capitalism will enable a Golden Age for the highest systemic leverage, for example, in electricity companies as described in the Twitter conversation, whose two last tweets are shown next.</div>
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Is systemic corruption.the main cause of inequality between rich and poor? See <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="1875891036" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/PactosRD" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">PactosRD</span></a> example <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/815GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/LIPYCe3qaJ" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/815GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/815GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="7996082" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/el_pais" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">el_pais</span></a><a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a></div>
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Systemic corruption enables consensus to create statu quo inequality between rich and poor <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/815GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/LIPYCe3qaJ" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/815GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/815GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="1875891036" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/PactosRD" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">PactosRD</span></a><a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a></div>
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Please take a look at the dialogue between Anabella Gomar and myself on how that paradox might be address by dealing with systemic corruption. Do you have anything to add. Thank you!</div>
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Anabella Gomar<a class="respondea" href="https://www.blogger.com/null" id="enlacemostrarrespuesta_1432587833-8f265a0c467ca12ed09831dc8c8d7859" style="background: url("/Iconos/v1.x/v1.0/sprite_neutro.png") 1px -744px no-repeat transparent; border: 0.1em solid rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #777777; cursor: pointer; display: inline-block; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; height: 1.5em; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.5em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: middle; width: 2em;" title="Ver mensaje al que responde"></a></div>
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You are welcome Anabella. Right now I am in the Dominican Republic, but who knows if I get to travel to Spain or you come visit us here for that good terrace idea. Thanks in part to you, I am able to get close to try to establish the close relationship that exists between inequality and a flawed systemic structure. In that line I have added another tweet to the conversation.</div>
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If "Neoliberalism" is systemic corruption under passive agreement, what's intelligent dissent in <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="1875891036" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/PactosRD" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">PactosRD</span></a>? <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/808GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/eRF8gv7UOA" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/808GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/808GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a> <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a></div>
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Is systemic corruption.the main cause of inequality between rich and poor? See <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="1875891036" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/PactosRD" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">PactosRD</span></a> example <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/815GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/LIPYCe3qaJ" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/815GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/815GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="7996082" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/el_pais" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">el_pais</span></a><a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a></div>
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Thank you for the opportunity to clarify. In truth a very complex subject. Peter Senge, in his book The Fifth Discipline, shows that there are three kinds of explanations. 1) Events (reactive), 2) Patterns of Behavior (responsive) and 3) Systemic Structure (generative). Structural explanations, is the least common and most powerful. It focuses on answering the question, "What causes the patterns of behavior?" And "... changing underlying structures can produce different" trends as suggested in the Twitter conversations, that shows the need to change the common sense in order to exit from the prolonged systemic crises, for example, economic, climete and energy.</div>
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Is this about trends? I understand that trends are the result of thinking that the future is a continuation of the past. Not being a continuation of the past, I also understand that we are in a very big change: the shift from the 3rd to the 4th Information Revolution. To make the story short, please take a look at the following Twitter conversation, where only the two tweets with more retweets are shown.</div>
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¿Necesitarán los <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NativosDigitales?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">NativosDigitales</span></a>,un <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="1875891036" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/PactosRD" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">PactosRD</span></a> redefinido que no están esperando, pero les encantará? <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/808GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/eRF8gv7UOA" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/808GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/808GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a><a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a></div>
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"Pienso, luego estorbo" al statu quo, cuyo acuerdo pasivo ya degeneró en corrupción sistémica <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/808GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/eRF8gv7UOA" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/808GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/808GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a> <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a><a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="1875891036" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/PactosRD" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">PactosRD</span></a></div>
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Mi último paté. Sobre el problemá ético de reproducir discursos de los partidos del R'78: Fin de etapa <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://ccaa.elpais.com/ccaa/2015/05/22/catalunya/1432330285_201965.html" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/TwJV0hLYhT" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://ccaa.elpais.com/ccaa/2015/05/22/catalunya/1432330285_201965.html"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>ccaa.elpais.com/ccaa/2015/05/2<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">2/catalunya/1432330285_201965.html </span>…</a> vía <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="7996082" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/el_pais" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">el_pais</span></a></div>
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Paté <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="205457327" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/Guillemmartnez" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">Guillemmartnez</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="7996082" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/el_pais" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">el_pais</span></a> comentado <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://ccaa.elpais.com/ccaa/2015/05/22/catalunya/1432330285_201965.html" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/nbYixjmlAO" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://ccaa.elpais.com/ccaa/2015/05/22/catalunya/1432330285_201965.html"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>ccaa.elpais.com/ccaa/2015/05/2<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">2/catalunya/1432330285_201965.html </span>…</a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="102095809" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/AdaColau" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">AdaColau</span></a><a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="191102437" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/XavierDomenechs" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">xavierdomenechs</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="482389606" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/ierrejon" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">ierrejon</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="300201525" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/MarinaGarces" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">MarinaGarces</span></a><a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="3084704992" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/JoseManuel_Lop" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">JoseManuel_Lop</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a></div>
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La respuesta a ¿Qué hacer cuando informar, describir, consiste en decir que mienten, constántemente? puede estar en el fin de etapa que se sugiere en la conversación que se viene desarrollando en Twitter cuya génesis empezó con los Nativos Digitales que impulsaron el M-15 en contra de la corrupción sistémica que se necesita reinterpretar lo más pronto posible. Vean a seguida los dos últimos tweets de dicha conversación.</div>
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¿Necesitarán los <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NativosDigitales?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">NativosDigitales</span></a>,un <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="1875891036" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/PactosRD" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">PactosRD</span></a> redefinido que no están esperando, pero les encantará? <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/808GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/eRF8gv7UOA" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/808GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/808GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a><a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a></div>
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"Pienso, luego estorbo" al statu quo, cuyo acuerdo pasivo ya degeneró en corrupción sistémica <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/808GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/eRF8gv7UOA" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/808GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/808GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a> <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a><a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="1875891036" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/PactosRD" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">PactosRD</span></a></div>
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<a aria-label="Jose A Vanderhorst S (nombre de pantalla: gmh_upsa)" class="TweetAuthor-link Identity u-linkBlend" data-scribe="element:user_link" href="https://twitter.com/gmh_upsa" style="background-color: transparent; font-weight: inherit; line-height: 1.2; outline: 0px; text-decoration: inherit;"><span class="TweetAuthor-avatar Identity-avatar" style="background-color: transparent; border-radius: 4px; display: inline-block; height: 36px; left: 0px; overflow: hidden; position: absolute; top: 0px; width: 36px;"><img alt="" class="Avatar" data-scribe="element:avatar" data-src-1x="https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1343129899/Jos__at_Cornell_2008_normal.JPG" data-src-2x="https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1343129899/Jos__at_Cornell_2008_bigger.JPG" src="https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1343129899/Jos__at_Cornell_2008_normal.JPG" style="border: 0px; max-height: 100%; max-width: 100%;" /></span><span class="TweetAuthor-name Identity-name customisable-highlight" data-scribe="element:name" style="font-weight: 700;" title="Jose A Vanderhorst S">Jose A Vanderhorst S</span> <span class="TweetAuthor-screenName Identity-screenName" data-scribe="element:screen_name" dir="ltr" style="color: #697882; font-size: 13px;" title="@gmh_upsa">@gmh_upsa</span></a></div>
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To <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="126038431" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/quilombosfera" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">quilombosfera</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="205457327" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/Guillemmartnez" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">Guillemmartnez</span></a> Please look at "A question to digital natives: would you love direct democracy?<a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/807GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/hSH9G3hKBu" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/807GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/807GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a></div>
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From 2 questions by <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="205457327" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/Guillemmartnez" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">Guillemmartnez</span></a> a 3rd in <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/807GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/hSH9G3hKBu" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/807GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/807GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a> to <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="102095809" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/AdaColau" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">AdaColau</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="191102437" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/XavierDomenechs" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">xavierdomenechs</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="482389606" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/ierrejon" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">ierrejon</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="300201525" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/MarinaGarces" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">MarinaGarces</span></a><a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="3084704992" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/JoseManuel_Lop" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">JoseManuel_Lop</span></a></div>
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<a class="u-linkBlend u-url customisable-highlight long-permalink" data-datetime="2015-05-20T18:00:28+0000" data-scribe="element:full_timestamp" href="https://twitter.com/gmh_upsa/status/601085092371369985" style="background-color: transparent; font-weight: inherit; outline: 0px; text-decoration: inherit;">14:00 - 20 May 2015</a> · <a class="u-linkBlend customisable-highlight" href="https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A695f560eb8922977" style="background-color: transparent; font-weight: inherit; outline: 0px; text-decoration: inherit;">Dominican Republic</a></div>
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José Antonio Vanderhorst<a class="respondea" href="https://www.blogger.com/null" id="enlacemostrarrespuesta_1432128656-72a24f9b8172bba72b6f429534c00286" style="background: url("/Iconos/v1.x/v1.0/sprite_neutro.png") 1px -744px no-repeat transparent; border: 0.1em solid rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #777777; cursor: pointer; display: inline-block; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; height: 1.5em; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.5em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: middle; width: 2em;" title="Ver mensaje al que responde"></a></div>
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I used the above comment to update the following Twitter conversation, which shows only one previous tweet.</div>
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Mirando el mundo desde la arista que nos ofrece el famoso cuarto poder, he venido sugiriendo a tres periodistas (2 de España y uno del Reino Unido) que consideren la nota "Límites que van por encima de la política ( <a href="http://bit.ly/422GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/422GMH">http://bit.ly/422GMH</a> )." La cuarta actualización de esa nota es titulada "¿Deben los periodistas como Alicia González de El País cambiar su práctica a lo que se necesita para poder acabar con la crisis de la Eurozona?" Al respecto, se han generado varios tweets algunos de los cuales pueden verse en <a href="http://cort.as/TLw6" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://cort.as/TLw6">http://cort.as/TLw6</a></div>
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Con base a la atenta y oportuna respuesta de Alicia, elaboré la "Cuarta actualización: ¿Deben los periodistas como Alicia González de El País cambiar su práctica a lo que se necesita para poder acabar con la crisis de la Eurozona?" de la nota "Límites que van por encima de la política ( <a href="http://bit.ly/422GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/422GMH">http://bit.ly/422GMH</a> )." Dando de nuevo las gracias anticipadas, espero que por favor ella considere este 2do comentario y nos ofrezcas gentilmente tu atenta y oportuna. respuesta al mismo. Muchas gracias anticipadas. Dicha actualización se inicia así: "Todos debemos estar muy agradecidos a Alicia por el valor que le supuso el intercambiar los siguientes 'tuits':" y concluye con "Me temo que esa práctica, basada en el sentido común cartesiano es lo primero que se tiene que ir, si Europa y otros países, como los EE.UU., "tiene que hacer lo que sea necesario", como el Sr. Draghi sugirió. "Sin embargo, pregunto: "¿Deben los periodistas como los economistas cambiar su práctica a lo que se necesita?"</div>
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Estimada Alicia: Feliz viernes. Lo que expresas en esos videos se corresponde con el sentido común tradicional que asume como cierta la frase que dijo Mario Draghi "Al final es una decisión política, que toman los políticos elegidos democráticamente y no los banqueros centrales." Es en ese mismo sentido común el que se asume como válido en la respuesta al final de la pregunta que respondes: "¿Por qué Grecia tiene que llegar a un acuerdo?" Ahora bien, en consonancia con la nota de septiembre del 2014, "Why the Eurozone leaders must change their common sense first ( <a href="http://bit.ly/529GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/529GMH">http://bit.ly/529GMH</a> )," acabo de redactar la "Tercera actualización: Mario Draghi no es idiota, su frase en El País sí lo es: la crisis griega y el Pacto Eléctrico están por encima de la política," de la nota "Límites que van por encima de la política ( <a href="http://bit.ly/422GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/422GMH">http://bit.ly/422GMH</a> )." Espero que por favor consideres este comentario y ofrezcas gentilmente tu atenta y oportuna respuesta al mismo. Muchas gracias anticipadas.</div>
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Por mucho, la frase más idiota es la de Mario Draghi: "Al final es una decisión política, que toman los políticos elegidos democráticamente y no los banqueros centrales." Para probarlo, lean primero la nota "Límites que van por encima de la política (<a href="http://bit.ly/422GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/422GMH">http://bit.ly/422GMH</a> )," que en este momento tiene dos actualizaciones. Luego, lean por favor la nota "¿Estará por encima de la política el cambio de civilización que sugiere José Mujica en su brillante discurso? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/705GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/705GMH">http://bit.ly/705GMH</a> )."</div>
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Excelente la propuesta del Papa. Yo le agregaría que hace falta reinterpretar el significado del mercado, definir un nuevo orden mundial que abra la puerta a la civilización que llamo sistémica, que al estar por encima de la política hace que no se justifiquen guerras, que de resolver la crisis sistémica de los sectores eléctricos se disuelve (no hay que resolver) la crisis ambiental. Para ver una introducción a la propuesta vea, por ejemplo, la conversación de tuits de la que se ven los 2 últimos y al pulsarla se va Twitter a ver todos los demás</div>
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¿Podría la producción con paneles solares <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/818GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/5NWfO8Q0Vf" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/818GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a> servir para desmontar la <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Corrupci%C3%B3nSist%C3%A9mica?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">CorrupciónSistémica</span></a> en <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="1875891036" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/PactosRD" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">PactosRD</span></a>? <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a></div>
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¿Están <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="253760451" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/ANJE_RD" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">ANJE_RD</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="2540742014" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/ImpunidadCeroRD" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">ImpunidadCeroRD</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="1640401388" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/StgoSomosTodos" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">StgoSomosTodos</span></a><a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="104388861" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/ADOCCO" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">ADOCCO</span></a> a favor de <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="1875891036" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/PactosRD" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">PactosRD</span></a> que mantiene corrupción sistémica? <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/818GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/5NWfO8Q0Vf" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/818GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a></div>
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¿Quien asegura que los socios están comprometidos a negociar "con seriedad"? ¿Sería posible que los socieos en vez de reestructurar la deuda que se concentra en el capital financiero de corto plazo, acepten que se reestructuren los mercados para hacerlos sobresalientes, eliminando la "cuña invisible" de la civilización industrial que impulsa la corrupción sistémica, para entonces permitir el desarrolló del capital productivo a largo plazo. En ese sentido, considera por favor la "Octava actualización: ¿Podría la producción con paneles solares servir para desmontar la corrupción sistémica en el Pacto Eléctrico?," de la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará ( <a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )."</div>
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Existe una opción que sugiere un nuevo orden mundial donde se introduce el capitalismo sobresaliente. Esa opción es la que empecé a describir en mi primer comentario y que ahora es "Octava actualización: ¿Podría la producción con paneles solares servir para desmontar la corrupción sistémica en el Pacto Eléctrico?," de la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará ( <a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )." Dicha actualización empieza diciendo: "En realidad este no es un asunto local de los dominicanos, sino uno cuya importancia es crucial para toda la humanidad. Como muchos ya saben, es un asunto global, que expande lo referente casi todas las actualizaciones de esta misma nota y cuyo alcance, que ya incluye a China, la Unión Europea en general, Estados Unidos y Japón, se dedica a un país muy relevante en en este preciso momento."</div>
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Creo que en "la posibilidad de cambiar a sus ministros la mañana de este jueves," al presidente Rajoy le puede interesar mucho el comentario que se incia con ¿Y que tiene que ver la crisis griega con el gravamen al autoconsumo de luz con baterías? debajo de la noticia "La oposición griega reclama a Tsipras que cierre un pacto (<a href="http://cort.as/TAIj" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://cort.as/TAIj">http://cort.as/TAIj</a> )."</div>
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¿Y que tiene que ver la crisis griega con el gravamen al autoconsumo de luz con baterías? ¡Mucho! Ambas tienen que ver con quien controla el mercado y como quienes lo controlan se han dedicado a la corrupción sistémica. Así lo explica Alvin Toffler en la sección "La cuña invisible" que separa la producción del consumo en su libro "La Tercera Ola." La reacción normal de Syriza es incrementar el poder del Estado. Sin embargo, aunque parece contrario a la intuición, lo que se necesita es un mejor mercado, uno sobresaliente en el que la gente común recobre su poder de mercado, en momentos en que tenga excedentes, al reducir el tiempo de las transacciones, por ejemplo, de un mes a una hora, propiciando un servicio eléctrico sobresaliente no solo para el autoconsumo sino para la autoproducción. Este intercambio se puede convertir en la 8va actualización de la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará ( <a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )." ¿Que les parece?</div>
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Sea democrática o no, la ley liberadora de la economía está impregnada de corrupción sistémica que necesita desmontarse para sacar la UE del camino equivocado que sigue. Esta sería la respuesta positiva a la nota "¿Evitaría la democracia directa la descomunal crisis sistémica que percibe Piketty? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/844GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/844GMH">http://bit.ly/844GMH</a> )."</div>
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Jajajaja... Yo tampoco discuto con máquinas de ninguna clase. Mis propuestas son orgánicas y sugiero reemplazar el debate con el diálogo generativo, de forma que ambos puedan ganar, o no debe haber trato como decía el finado Steven R. Covey.</div>
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Lo siento mucho. Ya no se trata de aprender del pasado. El mundo ya cambió y mucho. Lo que hay que aprender del futuro emergente. Le sugiero ver, por ejemplo, la nota "Argumentos de Andrés Piqueras sobre el fin de la "mutación" del capitalismo neoliberal ( <a href="http://bit.ly/796GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/796GMH">http://bit.ly/796GMH</a> ).}," para entender que el capitalismo Neoliberal (o mejor dicho Noliberal) bueno para unos pocos, necesita dar paso a un capitalismo sobresaliente que le ofrece oportunidades a todos.</div>
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Subiendo a un porcentaje mayor, según un artículo del Harvard Business Review, sugiero lo que dice la "Séptima actualización: Los Indignados de Clase Media global (Nativos Digitales) necesitan que el Pacto Eléctrico sea rediseñado para el 99.9% que está por encima de la política," de la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará ( <a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )," que ya mencioné en mi primer comentario. Aprovecho para dar a conocer la nota, muy representativa del enfoque francés, "¿Estará el sentido común de Monsieur Attali muy alejado de la realidad del mercado del mundo de hoy? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/661GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/661GMH">http://bit.ly/661GMH</a> ), donde dice: "Sugiero que lo que en su momento fue el libre mercado bajo el sentido común del Fordismo, lo ha corrompido el Feudalismo. Ahora esos mercados que se han quedado rezagados con una civilización industrial que se ha expandido en exceso, no son libres, son mercados mediocres y muy injustos, debido a la miopía de liderazgo que se sugiere en breve."</div>
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En el mundo emergente la democracia representativa va a ser en parte reemplazada por la democracia directa. Al hacerlo, tendremos que pasar de las colaboraciones de cantidad, del que representan las "más de 2.000 enmiendas," que menciona el artículo, a colaboraciones de calidad, que introducen leyes minimalistas, que permiten que emerjan mercados sobresalientes, como el que se describe en la "Quinta actuaización: Investigación antií-corrupción sistémica puede empezar con autoconsumo de luz con baterías," de la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará ( <a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )," que en este momento cuenta con 7 actualizaciones, no menos importantes, que refuerzan lo dicho en esa actualización. Para los franceses, que están acostumbrados a creer en la regulación del Estado, que tuvo su sentido de ser antes de que llegara la revolución de la información, tendrán que reconocer que el mundo ya cambió y mucho, lo cual se puede apreciar en la referida nota.</div>
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Este es un caso en que unos 'tuits' han resulatdo en algo muy desfavorable. Por lo que uno puede ver, la gran mayoría de las colaboraciónes con 'tuits' son de cantidad y por eso parecen restar valor a lo que Twitter puede aportar. Hoy mismo elaboré un 'tuit' que se corresponde con la "Tercera actualización. Indignados de Clase Media claman con 'tuits' por libertad de expresión con colaboración Pacto Eléctrico de calidad," de la nota "Carta a Diario Libre: Hagamos que el problema sea de todos con libertad de expresión ( <a href="http://bit.ly/685GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/685GMH">http://bit.ly/685GMH</a> )." Cabe agregar que dicha nota se refiere a la otra nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará (<a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )," que destaca en su texto principal una larga conversación a base de 'tuits," en defensa de la colaboración de calidad.</div>
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Lo más importante en este tema lo intuyeron los Indignados en todo el mundo, pero lamentablemente no lo pudieron articular. Lo que le llaman cambios estructurales tienen un grave problema, traen con ellos una corrupción sistémica que concentra su atención en el capital financiero de corto plazo. Los verdaderos cambios estructurales que necesita Grecia y todos los que necesiten ayuda, tienen que desmontar esa corrupción sistémica concentrando su atención en el capital productivo de largo plazo. Para comprender esta situación vean por favor la "Séptima actualización: Los Indignados de Clase Media global (Nativos Digitales) necesitan que el Pacto Eléctrico sea rediseñado para el 99.9% que está por encima de la política," de la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará ( <a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )." Si tienen preguntas, con mucho gusto trataré de responderlas.</div>
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El problema es más sencillo de lo que se presenta en esta noticia. El desarrollo de un mercado de electricidad, por ejemplo, horario, al por mayor y al detalle, que se base en la escalabilidad del aprendizaje (no de la eficiencia), hará los paneles solares mucho más rentables en poco tiempo que las tecnonologías fósiles. Las tres últimas actualizaciones de la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará ( <a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )," apoyan dicho desarrollo: 5ta) Investigación antií-corrupción sistémica puede empezar con autoconsumo de luz con baterías. 6ta) "El arreglo del déficit no es materia de expertos en regulación." El Pacto Eléctrico debe estar por encima de la política. y 7ma) Los Indignados de Clase Media global (Nativos Digitales) necesitan que el Pacto Eléctrico sea rediseñado para el 99.9% que está por encima de la política. Para más detalles pulse la conversación de Twitter de la que se ve directamente los últimos 2 tuits.</div>
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David Diaz<a class="respondea" href="https://www.blogger.com/null" id="enlacemostrarrespuesta_1434282353-cc2662d887acd8c5cdd96e463c74887a" style="background: url("/Iconos/v1.x/v1.0/sprite_neutro.png") 1px -744px no-repeat transparent; border: 0.1em solid rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #777777; cursor: pointer; display: inline-block; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; height: 1.5em; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.5em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: middle; width: 2em;" title="Ver mensaje al que responde"></a></div>
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Muchas gracias David por responder. Aunque ahora se hable de autoconsumo, la gran tarea pendiente sigue siendo restructurar correctamente para minimizar la corrupción sistémica. Mira por favor el contenido de la conversación de Twitter, cuyos 2 últimos tuis se ven directamente.</div>
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Arreglo del déficit no es materia de expertos en regulación. <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="1875891036" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/PactosRD" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">PactosRD</span></a> debe estar por encima de la política <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/818GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/5NWfO8Q0Vf" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/818GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a><a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a></div>
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José Camilo García<a class="respondea" href="https://www.blogger.com/null" id="enlacemostrarrespuesta_1434280399-350aef5fe6f0e7494a0dfe40c542a9e9" style="background: url("/Iconos/v1.x/v1.0/sprite_neutro.png") 1px -744px no-repeat transparent; border: 0.1em solid rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #777777; cursor: pointer; display: inline-block; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; height: 1.5em; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.5em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: middle; width: 2em;" title="Ver mensaje al que responde"></a></div>
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Al comentario anterior, agrego la conversación de Twitter que puedes ver con apreciación externa en el último tuit.</div>
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Arreglo del déficit no es materia de expertos en regulación. <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="1875891036" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/PactosRD" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">PactosRD</span></a> debe estar por encima de la política <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/818GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/5NWfO8Q0Vf" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/818GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a><a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a></div>
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Muchas gracias por su interesante comentario. Me gustó mucho lo que escribiste en otro comentario (que no viene al caso): "Como ves no es tan facil llegar al meollo del asunto, pues exigiría entre otras cosas, conocimientos históricos, análisis, contrastes, atado de cabos y llegar a una conclusión." Me parece que podría convertirse en un meme que explicaría las colaboraciones de cantidad. Sin embargo, como puedes ver lo que propongo, por ejemplo, en la "Petición ( <a href="http://bit.ly/827GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/827GMH">http://bit.ly/827GMH</a> )" se distingue por ser una colaboración de calidad, que es aquella que llega al meolllo del asunto: la corrupción sistémica de muchos sectores que sufren crisis sistémicas, que es como se contribuye a que se imponga la ética.</div>
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Agradeciendo dos de tus valiosos aportes, ya agregué la "Novena actualización: Ahora, ¿qué le espera a Europa?" de la anteriormente mencionada nota "Límites que van por encima de la política" y luego clavé el siguiente retuit</div>
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Muchas gracias por tu inteligente, atenta y oportuna respuesta. Si fuera un problema político, todas esos grandes funcionarios importantes e inteligentes ya lo hubieran resuelto. Este problema está por encima de la política (de la religión, de la cultura) que es lamentablemente incapaz de considerar un cambio en las grandes suposiciones subyacentes, como el que sucedió hace 500 años cuando la élite (tan importante e inteligente para su tiempo como los políticos de hoy) de la iglesia católica no pudo resolver la llegada de la 3ra revolución de la información. Ahora gracias a la arquitectura de sistemas altamente complejos, podemos entender que se trata de un cambio de civilización impulsado por la 4ta revolución de la información. Eso es parte de lo que he tratado de artícular. Para más detalles, lee por favor el texto inicial de la nota " Límites que van por encima de la política ( <a href="http://bit.ly/422GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/422GMH">http://bit.ly/422GMH</a> ), y luego sus actualizaciones.</div>
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Salga el SI o el NO, ¿sabes que le espera a España, Chipre, Portugal, Italia? ¿No será este un problema de inestabilidad en la Eurozona? ¿No será mejor que la Troika desaparezca, como expliqué en mi primer comentario? Dicho comentario es afín con ¿se habrá equivocado el filosofo Habermas al decir 'La crisis griega es otra prueba de que son los ciudadanos, y no los acreedores, quienes deben decidir sobre el futuro de la UE'?</div>
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¡Exacto! Mira mi comentario ¿Qué le espera a Europa?</div>
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¿No será 'Ahora, ¿qué le espera a Grecia?' basada en una miopía administrativa que está debajo de la política?¿No será mejor 'Ahora, ¿qué le espera a Europa?' basada en un liderazgo realista que está por encima de la política, como se puede ver en el "Fifth update: Will the Eurozone continue in its Doom Loop unless the Troika is killed?" (Quinta actualización: ¿Continuará la Eurozona en su ciclo fatal a menos que se mate la Troika? de la nota "A Systemic Civilization Global Declaration of Interdependence (<a href="http://bit.ly/664GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/664GMH">http://bit.ly/664GMH</a> )." (Una Declaración de Interdependencia pro Civilización Sistémica)</div>
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La salida que propongo tiene un precedente que aparece en la "Segunda actualización: ¿Recetas de la Troika y también del FMI con OUT y Pacto Eléctrico con mercado sobresaliente IN?" de la nota de diciembre del 2013 "Cambiemos las recetas de la Troica @el_pais por la institución del mercado ( <a href="http://bit.ly/293GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/293GMH">http://bit.ly/293GMH</a> )."</div>
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¡¡¡Troika OUT!!! .. Interdependence IN. Esa fórmula proviene de la integración de esta noticia con el "Fifth update: Will the Eurozone continue in its Doom Loop unless the Troika is killed?" de la nota "A Systemic Civilization Global Declaration of Interdependence ( <a href="http://bit.ly/664GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/664GMH">http://bit.ly/664GMH</a> )." Aprovecho para repetir parte de un comentario que hice sobre el referendo griego. El SI: palo SI boga. El NO: palo si NO boga. La salida existe y es reorganizar la Unión Europea finiquitando la Troika, que es la protege la crisis con el SI y con el NO. La reorganización requiere dejar detrás los Estados independientes y pasar a los Estados interdependientes, como se puede ver en la misma actualización de dicha nota.</div>
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El SI: palo SI boga. El NO: palo si NO boga. La salida existe y es reorganizar la Unión Europea finiquitando la Troika, que es la protege la crisis con el SI y con el NO. La reorganización requiere dejar detrás los Estados independientes y pasar a los Estados interdependientes, como se puede ver en "Fifth update: Will the Eurozone continue in its Doom Loop unless the Troika is killed?" de la nota "A Systemic Civilization Global Declaration of Interdependence ( <a href="http://bit.ly/664GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/664GMH">http://bit.ly/664GMH</a> )."</div>
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Cualquier acuerdo técnico, por debajo de la política de la civilización industrial, llevará con toda seguridad a la continuación del ciclo fatal, que seguirá desestabilizando a Europa y el mundo, al mantenerse viva la corrupción sistémica. Se necesita un acuerdo por encima de la política, que permita reconocer que el mundo cambió. Ahora hay 3 situaciones, pero solo la última desmonta la corrupción sistémica: 1) la que vemos de los periodistas, "Palo si boga, palo si no boga." 2) la de Wall Street, el acuerdo con Grecia es un precedente para las crisis latentes de España, Portugal, Italia, etc. Y 3) que se necesita implantar un nuevo orden mundial, a favor de la humanidad, basado en la pregunta "¿Es la corrupción sistémica el resultado de la obediencia civil?" Para más detalles ver lo siguiente:</div>
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Una cosa es la interpretación que hemos venido leyendo de parte de los periodistas que están cubriendo las negociaciones en Europa. Muy interesante, valiosa y oportuna es la segunda interpretación que hace ese analista de Wall Street: teme que la negociación con Grecia se vuelva un precedente para futuras negociaciones, por ejemplo, con España, Portugal o Italia. Como algunos ya saben, existe una tercera interpretación que he venido ofreciendo con base a un sentido común muy distinto al de esas dos interpretaciones que se basan en el pensamiento Cartesiano. Esta aparece en "Second update: 5 min. video. Is systemic corruption a problem of civil obedience? (2da actualización: Video de 5 minutos. ¿Es la corrupción sistémica un problema de obediencia civil?)" de la nota "A Systemic Civilization Global Declaration of Interdependence (Una declaración global de interdependencia de la civilización sistémica) ( <a href="http://bit.ly/664GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/664GMH">http://bit.ly/664GMH</a> )," en la que el actor Matt Damon lee parte del discurso "El problema de la obediencia civil," que Howard Zinn pronunció en noviembre de 1970. ¿Qué les parece?</div>
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De nuevo te doy las gracias por esas dos interesantes preguntas y por las dos observaciones que hiciste. En esta ocasión, te informo que incorporé nuestro intercambio en la "Octava actualización: Video 6 min. ¿Puede encíclica papa Francisco Laudato Si' anticipar una nueva civilización?" de la ya mencionada nota "Límites que van por encima de la política ( <a href="http://bit.ly/422GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/422GMH">http://bit.ly/422GMH</a> )." Si alguien tiene más observaciones, con mucho gusto trataré de responderlas.</div>
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Gracias María. Ese cambio fue presagiado por Alvin Toffler en su libro La Tercera Ola. El sintetizó que la civilización industrial tenía una "cuña invisible" que separa la producción del consumo y que era la fuente de la corrupción. Esa corrupción se ha incrementado con el Neo (lease NO) liberalismo o por igual Neofeudalismo y se vuelto una corrupción sistémica (significa que es muy difícil encontrar culpables). Así como la civilización industrial suplantó la civilización agrícola, la civilización emergente, que llamo sistémica, llegó para quedarse, sin importar las diferencias sociales, culturales, políticas, religiosas. Si quieres saber más, mira por favor, por ejemplo, la nota "Límites que van por encima de la política ( <a href="http://bit.ly/422GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/422GMH">http://bit.ly/422GMH</a> )." Esas diferencias no importaron para ninguno de los países que se volvieron industrializados y tampocó sugiero va a ser para los que se vuelvan sistémicos, que debiera ser toda la humanidad. Si se lee cuidadosamente la encíclica papal nos indica que anticipa un cambio de civilización.</div>
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Europa respira aliviada ante un inminente acuerdo con Grecia</h2>
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Este es otro de los comentarios que he hecho recientemente. A menos que se admita que el mundo está en un proceso de cambio de civilización, será imposible que todos puedan ganar con el paso del tiempo, Esa es una parte substancial del cambio de sentido común que se necesita donde la sabiduría está por encima del dinero y por tanto de la política. Esto no afecta a Europa solamente, sino que tiene serias repercusiones para toda la humanidad.</div>
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Agregué la "Séptima actualización: Los límites que van por encima de la política son, por ejemplo, los que permiten realizar una transición de una civilización a otra." de la nota "Límites que van por encima de la política ( <a href="http://bit.ly/422GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/422GMH">http://bit.ly/422GMH</a> )." Eso es muy importante.</div>
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¿Podrías colaborar a un acuerdo en la cumbre de mañana y evitar un lío colosal en el sistema bancario de Grecia?.</div>
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En vez de "un acuerdo técnico que sirva como base del pacto político al más alto nivel en la eurocumbre de mañana," lo que la Eurozona necesita es un acuerdo sistémico que está necesariamente por encima de la política, que solo puede suceder si las partes aceptan que tienen que cambiar del sentido común de los países independientes al sentido común de los interdependientes. Es en ese sentido que respondí el 'tuit' de "Camilo Egaña @camilocnn “Las malas personas no pueden ser buenos periodistas”, dejó dicho Kapuscinski.Un buen banquero tampoco''.con el 'tuit' @gmh_upsa Jose A Vanderhorst S retweeted Camilo Egaña ¿Deben @CarlosAMontaner @agvicente @Guillemmartnez saber los límites más allá de la política <a href="http://bit.ly/422GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/422GMH">http://bit.ly/422GMH</a> ?" Todavía estoy esperando sus respuestas.</div>
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Muchas gracias por responder. Hace cercanamente 40 años que el mundo empezó a cambiar hacia la democracia directa en algunos sectores que hoy sufren problemas sistémicos. Eso sucedió, por ejemplo, con el embargo petrolero de la OPEC, cuando recién terminé mis estudios en USA y regresé a trabajar en la empresa eléctrica estatal que me había financiado mis estudios. Ese embargo, cambió la suposición principal de la industria eléctrica (lo supe hace pocos años) que explico en la sección "¿Por qué es importante contratar al Dr.José Antonio Vanderhorst Silverio?" de la "petición ( <a href="http://bit.ly/827GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/827GMH">http://bit.ly/827GMH</a> )." Esa clase de cambios debió hacerse en los años 90, pero lo que se introdujo en España, Dominicana y en otros países fue la corrupción sistémica que trajo el Noliberslismo o Neofeudalismo. Aprovecho para agradecerle e informarle, que lo cité en la "Quinta actualización: ¿Deben los periodistas y escritores como Carlos Alberto Montaner cambiar su práctica a lo que se necesita para poder acabar con la decadencia norteamericana?" de la nota "Límites que van por encima de la política ( <a href="http://bit.ly/422GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/422GMH">http://bit.ly/422GMH</a> )."</div>
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Has explicado porqué la democracia representativa de la civilización industrial ya no funciona. En este 2do comentario, agrego que las elecciones de los representantes tiene "un retraso sistémico" (varios años) que se puede reducir grandemente en la civilización sistémica con la democracia directa, donde uno puede votar con el dinero de su bolsillo, por ejemplo, al contratar el servicio (no al pagar una factura) a un competidor de electricidad al detalle. sobresaliente. Lo dicho anteriormente actualiza la nota "Propuesta al G20 para impulsar la democracia directa ( <a href="http://bit.ly/541GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/541GMH">http://bit.ly/541GMH</a> )," cuyo último párrafo dice: "Con ese capitalismo humanista las elecciones se harían día a día en el mercado con empresas sobresalientes, que son las únicas que disponen de apalancamiento sistémico positivo, para que todos podamos ganar. Dichas empresas sobresalientes se reconocen porque hacen propuestas que los clientes no esperando, pero que les agrada. Es así como esas empresas se mantienen en el mercado, permitiendo que la gente pueda acudir a la democracia directa del mercado y entonces puedan también ganar."</div>
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Con mucho respeto, estoy en desacuerdo de que “el problema no es el sistema, sino los políticos.” Como si el futuro fuese una continuación del pasado, el sistema en la mayoría de los lugares concentra su atención en las tendencias, por ejemplo, en los patrones de conducta de los políticos. Pero resulta que el mundo ha venido cambiando a pasos agigantados. Es decir, que el futuro dejó de ser hace mucho tiempo una continuación del pasado. En esa situación, es necesario cambiar del nivel de explicación de las tendencias, al nivel con el que se puede responder a la pregunta "¿qué causa los patrones de conducta?" Entonces la respuesta viene con una explicación estructural, que aunque raras, si resultan claras y comprensibles, tienen un impacto considerable. En ese sentido, sugiero que lean la "Cuarta actualización: ¿Debería la UE investigar si la corrupción sistemica hace que 'La riqueza de algunos países depende de las deudas de otros'?," de la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará ( <a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )."</div>
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El comentario de David se basa en la suposición ampliamente extendida de que las entidades son independientes y siguen ideologías, por ejemplo, de derecha e izquierda, en un viejo mundo en que domina la escacez y en el que el paro es una señal muy incierta para la que no se puede prevér un futuro, especialmente para la juventud mejor dotada que se ve obligada a emigrar. ¿Será verdad que en ese viejo mundo el dinero es muy escaso y por tanto caro? Claro que no, tan pronto se conoce que hay un futuro que podemos crear. En mi intercambio con Juan Bernardo, dije dos veces que " "Creánlo ustedes o no, España tiene la mayor oportunidad para ayudar a la Eurozona y al mundo a cambiar de rumbo." Puede que este no sea el medio ideal (que está diseñado para colaboraciones de cantidad) para dar al menos el beneficio de la duda de los planteamientos que plasmé (como colaboraciones de calidad) en esos dos comentarios que dependen de varios niveles de hiperenlaces.</div>
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Gracias Juan Bernardo por tu pronta y atenta respuesta. Debo admitir que cuando dije colaboración de calidad, me faltó decir que hay varios niveles de enlaces que son los que requieren paciencia. Uno de esos enlaces responde contrario a que "la única y remota posibilidad que nos queda es, que el azar nos brinde la solución fortuitamente con el mínimo de tragedia y coste humano." Eso que aparece en mi comentario como "Creánlo ustedes o no, España tiene la mayor oportunidad para ayudar a la Eurozona y al mundo a cambiar de rumbo," proviene de dos instancias. Una es amparada en el axioma del pensamiento sistémico, "mientras más sistémico, más local," la Eurozona tiene en España... un gran potencial.. y la otra esta en ¿Deberían los que apelan a la imagen del 15-M crear el futuro para los Indignados de Clase Media global? (<a href="http://bit.ly/25UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/25UPSA">http://bit.ly/25UPSA</a> )," que se inicia con la cita de Peter Drucker "La mejor manera de predecir el futuro es creándolo," Reitero a algunos de ustedes que le interese profundizar al respecto para que le dediquen tiempo a estas colaboraciones de calidad. Saludos de nuevo, José Antonio.</div>
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Buenas Juan Bernardo. Tus preguntas están alineadas con las perspectivas del club de la moneda única, que se basan en que no hay un futuro brillante a mediano plazo ni mucho menos a largo plazo. Con un paro que se pronostica para reducirse en una década se trata del escenario de la 2da Edad Media que he venido mencionando en mis escritos. Ese rumbo es implusado por la recetas simplistas del FMI y para cambiarlo es necesario prescindir de dicho FMI. Creánlo ustedes o no, España tiene la mayor oportunidad para ayudar a la Eurozona y al mundo a cambiar de rumbo. De eso se trata la nota "¿Estará la corrupción sistémica llevando la Eurozona a la Segunda Edad Media? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/486GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/486GMH">http://bit.ly/486GMH</a> )" y su "Primera actualización: ¿Podrán los que apelan a la imagen del 15-M llevar la Eurozona a la Edad Dorada?" Esa es una colaboración de calidad en medio de muchas colaboraciones de cantidad, así que requiere de paciencia para dedicar el tiempo necesario. Saludos cordiales, José Antonio</div>
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Más sobre "¿Qué futuro le espera a los parados?" En Twitter me escriben "Si no se trata ni de derechas ni izquierdas es mas el sentido común y poner unas reglas a la banca y ttip que nos quieren timar aun mas." Esto le respondí: "Esa justificación es cierta, pero puede llevar al autoengaño de la redistribución del dinero, que deja el rumbo en la dirección de la 2da Edad Media. Se necesita una transformación estructural que cambie el rumbo hacia el escenatio de la Edad Dorada."</div>
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¿Qué futuro le espera a los parados?¿No fue esa misma la pregunta que originó el 15-M? He reconocido dos escenarios: uno sin futuro y otro con futuro. El primero es el de la democracia representativa que está dominada por la corrupción sistémica que lleva a la 2da Edad Media, con un gran paro. El otro escenario es el que emocionalmente identificaron los del 15-M, pero que ha generado dos partidos y una plataforma que están metidos en participar equivocadamente en la democracia representativa. Ese otro escenario que sí tiene futuro es el que lleva a la Edad Dorada con la democracia directa. En ese sentido, hoy elaboré la nota "¿Deberían los que apelan a la imagen del 15-M crear el futuro para los Indignados de Clase Media global? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/25UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/25UPSA">http://bit.ly/25UPSA</a>)." Espero que la lean y opinen al respecto.</div>
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¡Que interesante! Que les parece esto: ¿Tendrá el movimiento de los Indignados de Clase Media del mundo esta oportunidad para producir un estadista?</div>
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Que bueno que sobre la liberalización "Casi todo lo demás está en el aire." Puede que no haya tiempo para que los griegos digieran lo que emergió en el día de hoy sobre la democracia representativa que impulsa la Troika y que resuelve el problema de cual será el rol del FMI. Su rol es desaparecer. No le debe caber ninguna duda a los españoles que impulsaron el 15-M que tenían toda la razón. El problema es que el FMI y la Troika bajo la democracia representativa nos llevan directamente a la 2da Edad Media. Este es un tema de la Unión Europea que necesita empezar a adoptar la democracia directa, para cambiar el rumbo hacia la primera Edad Dorada de la nueva civilización que detectó el 15-M. Para más detalles vean por favor la nota "Pensamiento para los indignados de Clase Media: Un Estado minimalista que impulsa la democracia directa ( <a href="http://bit.ly/20UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/20UPSA">http://bit.ly/20UPSA</a> )," que nació debajo de la noticia "Ahora en Común apela al 15-M para lanzar su proyecto de confluencia," escrita por Francesco Manetto para El País,</div>
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Ahora en Común apela al 15-M para convergir con Podemos que busca la democracia representativa. Esto le sugiero:</div>
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Esperaba que algunos de ustedes considerara el camino hacia la Edad Dorada de la civilización emergente que introduje en mi primer comentario. Ese camino contrario al de Podemos que inició el 15-M lo introduje en el artículo "Energía con impuestos: pensamiento que indignados no esperan ( <a href="http://bit.ly/10UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/10UPSA">http://bit.ly/10UPSA</a> )," hace casi 3 años. El mismo empieza así: En la noticia “El 15-M es emocional, le falta pensamiento,” publicada en EL PAIS, el 17 de octubre del 2011, Zigmunt Bauman, el filósofo y sociólogo polaco famoso por su concepto de la modernidad líquida, dijo sobre los indignados que: “El movimiento crece y crece pero ‘lo hace a través de la emoción, le falta pensamiento. Con emociones solo, sin pensamiento, no se llega a ninguna parte.’ El alboroto de la emoción colectiva reproduce el espectáculo de un carnaval que acaba en sí mismo, sin consecuencia. ‘Durante el carnaval todo está permitido pero terminado el carnaval vuelve la normativa de antes.’” Pues bien, desde entonces digo que he desarrollado el pensamiento que le falta al 15-M. Un Estado minimalista que impulsa la democracia directa.</div>
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Todo lo que veo en la noticia es que Ahora en Común quiere seguir aprendiendo del pasado, como se ha venido haciendo en la civilización industrial. Esa es la razón principal que mueve la convergencia. Sin embargo, ellos pueden buscar el poder por sí mismos, diferenciandose de la camarilla bolibariana y por tanto sustraerle a Podemos la gente que está dispuesta a reinvidicar la esencia del 15-M en base a la democracia directa, que se basa en el sentido común del Jobsismo (que nos legó Steve Jobs), mientras todos los políticos siguen con la democracia representativa que se basa en el sentido común del Fordismo que está corrompido por el Feudalismo. Lo anterior es el resultado de aprender del futuro emergente a partir de mi comentario anterior. Favor ayudar a perfeccionar estas ideas emergentes, como un diálogo generativo, en vez de un debate, en el que seguro gana el statu quo que domina el dinero. Sería la diferencia entre el dinero y la sabiduría.</div>
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Y si lo que el 15-M impulsaba sin saberlo era la llegada de una nueva civilización, como lo intuyó el novelista Carlos Fuente, al sintetizar lo que percibió de la Primavera Árabe, el 15-M y Occupy Wall Street. En vez de más democracia representativa. verán al final que sugiero que el 15-M debe llevar a la democracia directa. Pero doy para atrás. Yo ya había venido escribiendo sobre esa civilización que ahora llamo sistémica, la cual va más allá de los países independendientes a los interdependientes. Apoyándome en el 15-M fue que escribí la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará ( <a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )," la cual tiene 10 actualizaciones. Más recientemente, he concentrado el esfuerzo en referendum para empezar a impulsar la demcracia directa en el servicio eléctrico en Europa (por Grecia), en EE.UU (Por Puerto Rico) y en la OEA (por Dominicana). Eso se puede ver en la nota "Top 6 @gmh_upsa Tuits from Twitter Analytics of the last 28 days (<a href="http://bit.ly/09UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/09UPSA">http://bit.ly/09UPSA</a> )." donde 4 de los 6 tuits son en Español.</div>
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En un mundo sujeto a Cisnes Negros, el Banco Mundial plantea semejante disparate. Es una prueba de que no tienen nada importante que decir. ¿Cuál es su opinión a favor de los clientes finales sobre el déficit de tarifa, el impuesto al sol y el gravamen al autoconsumo?</div>
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Es probablemente imposible que el parlamento griego se entere de que el problema que conlleva la reforma de la privatización del servicio de electricidad, que se concentra en el mercado mayorista, puede subsanarse con una profundización que complete el mercado para liberalizar el mercado minorista y así evitar la actual privatización de los beneficios y la socialización de las pérdidas como ocurre en España, Dominicana y en muchas partes del mundo. Para enterarse de ello, vean por favor la nota "Was the Smart Grid 2025 a transition scenario? Do we need a transformation scenario? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/02UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/02UPSA">http://bit.ly/02UPSA</a> )." Eso es lo que se necesita en España para resolver su crisis sistémica de electricidad, que involucra, por ejemplo, el déficit de tarifa, el impuesto al sol y el gravamen al autoconsumo.</div>
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Merkel y sus pares podrían encontrar el "camino conjunto," por ejemplo, en "Los referendos sobre la transformación a la democracia directa, podrían comenzar con Pactos Eléctricos en Europa, EE.UU. y la OEA ( <a href="http://bit.ly/01UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/01UPSA">http://bit.ly/01UPSA</a> )," que es una traducción de la nota "Referendums on the transformation to direct democracy, might start with Electricity Pacts in Europe, USA and OAS ( <a href="http://bit.ly/899GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/899GMH">http://bit.ly/899GMH</a> )." El primer párrafo de la traducción dice: "Lo que sigue es una invitación a continuar un diálogo generativo destinado a definir, por ejemplo, las dos opciones de un referendo, que puede ser útil en este momento para las negociaciones de la Unión Europea con Grecia, a partir de una transformación en el sector eléctrico. Tal clase de referendo también puede ser útil, por ejemplo, para los Estados Unidos de América en el caso de Puerto Rico, para la Organización de los Estados Americanos en el caso de la inmigración haitiana a la República Dominicana, todo basado en las conclusiones avanzadas para el Pacto Eléctrico de la República Dominicana, que está diseñado para el entorno socioeconómico global."</div>
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El nacionalismo no tiene futuro. Los catalanes necesitan considerar esta alternativa. Lo que sigue es la traducción del primer párrafo de la nota "Referendums on the transformation to direct democracy, might start with Electricity Pacts in Europe, USA and OAS ( <a href="http://bit.ly/899GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/899GMH">http://bit.ly/899GMH</a> )," algo asó como "Los referendos sobre la transformación de la democracia directa, podrían comenzar con Pactos Eléctricos en Europa, EE.UU. y la OEA," dice así: "Lo que sigue es una invitación a continuar un diálogo generativo destinado a definir, por ejemplo, las dos opciones de un referéndum, que puede ser útil en este momento para las negociaciones de la Unión Europea con Grecia, a partir de una transformación en el sector eléctrico. Tal clase de referendo también puede ser útil, por ejemplo, para los Estados Unidos de América en el caso de Puerto Rico, por la Organización de los Estados Americanos en el caso de la inmigración haitiana a la República Dominicana, todo basado en las conclusiones avanzadas para el Pacto de Electricidad de la República Dominicana, que está diseñado para el entorno socioeconómico global."</div>
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La política ha producido un acuerdo basado en una colaboración de cantidad. En respuesta al Editorial de elDinero "Grecia y Puerto Rico: Hay que poner la barba en remojo," abajo aparece lo que retuité como ingeniero consultor en arquitecturía de sistemas complejos.</div>
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El capitalismo de la civilización industrial ha muerto, ¿podrá crearse el capitalimo de la civilización sistémica tomando riesgos a corto plazo para lograr grandes beneficios a largo plazo <a href="http://bit.ly/884GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/884GMH">http://bit.ly/884GMH</a> ? “Plebiscito contra la troika” es la mejor interpretación de lo acontecido en Grecia que he visto en la prensa. Como alternativa al desarrollo del artículo del Sr. Bassets, consideren por favor lo que anticipé hace una semana debajo del artículo "Ahora, ¿qué le espera a Grecia? <a href="http://cort.as/Tu04" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://cort.as/Tu04">http://cort.as/Tu04</a> ): ¿No será 'Ahora, ¿qué le espera a Grecia?' basada en una miopía administrativa que está debajo de la política?¿No será mejor 'Ahora, ¿qué le espera a Europa?' basada en un liderazgo realista que está por encima de la política, como se puede ver en el "Fifth update: Will the Eurozone continue in its Doom Loop unless the Troika is killed?" (Quinta actualización: ¿Continuará la Eurozona en su ciclo fatal a menos que se mate la Troika? de la nota "A Systemic Civilization Global Declaration of Interdependence ( <a href="http://bit.ly/664GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/664GMH">http://bit.ly/664GMH</a> )." (Una Declaración de Interdependencia pro Civilización Sistémica).</div>
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El precedente de la inestabilidad en la Eurozona no fue el referendum. Si hubiese ganado el SI la inestabilidad hubiese igualmente continuado. El precedente es una unión de países independientes que siguen los dictados del equilibrio monetario Keynesiano, en un mundo que en que esos países son cada vez más interdependientes. Es tiempo de reconocer que la vida útil de las declaraciones de independencia impulsadas por la civilización industrial se acabó y que el mundo necesita una declaración de interdependencia en Europa y en todo el mundo. En ese sentido, sugiero que consideres apoyar la sugerencia "Para que los jóvenes tengan derecho al futuro con libertad de expresión ayudanos a crear la civilización sistémica (<a href="http://bit.ly/685GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/685GMH">http://bit.ly/685GMH</a> )."</div>
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La tragedia griega es otro ejemplo que se envía a los jóvenes de que no hay futuro. La "Cuarta actualización: Para que los jóvenes tengan derecho al futuro con libertad de expresión ayudanos a crear la civilización sistémica" de la nota " La Carta a Diario Libre: Hagamos que el problema sea de todos con libertad de expresión (<a href="http://bit.ly/685GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/685GMH">http://bit.ly/685GMH</a> )," responde, por ejemplo, a la frase "malos tiempos para el periodismo," que precede el segmento empleado para "despedir el último programa de la temporada de ‘El Intermedio’, El Gran Wyoming y Sandra Sabatés," donde se resalta la magnifica conciencia para ver, oir y hablar de Iñaki Gabilondo, Dice el resumen del video "Según Gabilondo, 'se está viviendo tiempos de estupor' y 'hay mucho paro' que es 'el mayor enemigo de la libertad de expresión que haya conocido'”.</div>
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¿Habrá un mundo sólido después del mundo líquido que Zygmunt Bauman identificó en los tiempos del 15M? Carlos Fuentes interpretó ese 15M como la llegada de una nueva civilización y por lo tanto de un nuevo sistema, como el que predijo Alvin Toffler en La Tercera Ola. Basado, por ejemplo, en esos potenciales antecedentes, he sugerido que en vez de un referendun griego orientado al Estado grande con el sí y el no, se organice un referendum Europeo orieintado a los mercados sobresalientes con un Estado minimalista. Este podría ser nuestro problema común: ¿será que la gente no se ha enterado porque el sistema imperante de la civilización industrial fue estructurado para esa clase de comportamientos?¿Podría cambiar tu trilema si se reestructura el sistema, por ejemplo, en base al "Expediente distribuido en la puesta en circulación del ejemplar No. 6 de la Revista Dominicana de Economía... (<a href="http://bit.ly/874GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/874GMH">http://bit.ly/874GMH</a> )."</div>
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Creo que para Grecia, Europa y el Mundo, el FMI debe tener sus días contados, ya que cumplió su rol con creces bajo la democracia representativa de la civilización industrial. La razón fundamental es que el mundo cambió y mucho. Por eso, debajo de la noticia "Tsipras fuerza a Syriza a tomar partido sobre el rescate europeo," respondí a Soyla Zorrilla Del Prado con: "Muchas gracias Soyla . Encontré un video en que Christine Lagarde dice sobre Grecia que su respuesta es muy sencilla. Lo que necesitan desde el punto de vista del FMI y bajo sus criterios es claridad política. Conforme a mis comentarios anteriores. que aparecen integrados en <a href="http://bit.ly/32UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/32UPSA">http://bit.ly/32UPSA</a> , esa claridad política se descubre fácilmente en la contrapropuesta de referendo: la claridad política que espera el FMI es la de la democracia representativa de la civilización industrial, para la que el FMI fue diseñado para proteger y que al mundo cambiar nos está llevando a la 2da Edad Media y a la que sugiero que los griegos le den el NO. Entonces sería la democracia indirecta que lleva a la Edad Dorada la que le correspondería el SI.</div>
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Muchas gracias Soyla . Encontré un video en que Christine Lagarde dice sobre Grecia que su respuesta es muy sencilla. Lo que necesitan desde el punto de vista del FMI y bajo sus criterios es claridad política. Conforme a mis comentarios anteriores, esa claridad política se descubre fácilmente en la contrapropuesta de referendo: la claridad política que espera el FMI es la de la democracia representativa de la civilización industrial, para la que el FMI fue diseñado para proteger y que al mundo cambiar nos está llevando a la 2da Edad Media y a la que sugiero que los griegos le den el NO. Entonces sería la democracia indirecta que lleva a la Edad Dorada la que le correspondería el SI.</div>
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Gracias Juan Bernardo. En vez de garantías efectivas de independencia económica. ¿por qué no establecerlas para la interdepedencia (que va mucho más allá que la independencia)?¿Es la restricción "por medio de los Estados" para obligar a mantener la democracia representativa? Hay otra alternativa en la democracia directa para reinventarnos que es la que sugiero para el referendo griego. Repito el contenido externo que sugiero para dicho referendo.con la contrapropuesta para Tsipras. Favor da retuit. ¡Saludos!</div>
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Consideren también por favor <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="252254457" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/jorgesuarezv" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">jorgesuarezv</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="21694413" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/gfrias" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">gfrias</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="33884545" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/CNNEE" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">CNNEE</span></a> esta actualización <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="https://twitter.com/gmh_upsa/status/625302099253800960" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="https://t.co/phUrYFy6XU" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="https://twitter.com/gmh_upsa/status/625302099253800960"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">https://</span>twitter.com/gmh_upsa/statu<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">s/625302099253800960 </span>…</a> que saltaría <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/seguimoscomprandoespejos?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">seguimoscomprandoespejos</span></a></div>
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¿Debe <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="2292454922" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/tsipras_eu" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">tsipras_eu</span></a> considerar cambio <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="https://twitter.com/gmh_upsa/status/626835422287544320" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="https://t.co/YnafJy0qHx" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="https://twitter.com/gmh_upsa/status/626835422287544320"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">https://</span>twitter.com/gmh_upsa/statu<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">s/626835422287544320 </span>…</a> referendo <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="274013085" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/claudiperez" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">claudiperez</span></a><a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="205457327" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/Guillemmartnez" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">Guillemmartnez</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="125647371" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/agvicente" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">agvicente</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="305835391" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/camilocnn" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">camilocnn</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="21694413" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/gfrias" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">gfrias</span></a>? <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a></div>
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¿Deberían los periodistas del El País, la autora de este artículo Claudi Pérez, Gillem Martínez y Alicia González, así como los de CNN, Camilo Egaña y Gabriela Frías, que son mencionados por sus cuentas de Twitter en el contenido externo que aparece abajo, no solo darse por enterados de la contrapropuesta que aparece en la conversación de tuits, que se inicia con #seguimoscomprandoespejos (en alusión a la llegada de España a América, pero que ahora parece que le aplica a Grecia, España, Portugal, Italia) sino ayudar a divulgarla lo más pronto posible? ¿Qué les parece?</div>
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Estoy completamente de acuerdo en que el problema de la deuda griega es muy concreto. Lo concreto fue muy importante para tomar decisiones de democracia representativa en la civilización industrial mientras los períodos fueron estables, donde se podía planificar a sus anchas. Pero el mundo cambió y llegaron las crisis sistémicas, por ejemplo, de deudas como la griega, que han sido infladas por corrupción sistémica, también por ejemplo, la del consenso Bessant-Jones (a lo interno del Banco Mundial) que impide el desarrollo de la democracia directa en el sector electricidad. Ese consenso es el que respalda el desarrollo de los mercados mayoristas organizados, que seguramente será profundizado en Grecia, manteniendo la privatización de las ganancias a favor de grandes productores y consumidores y la socialización de las pérdidas a la gente de a pie. Si quieres detalles más concretos que esos, con mucho gusto los aportaré.</div>
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Ayer escribí un tuit que (sin signos con #. ni cuentas con @) sinteticé como producto de varios intercambios: "La troika que impulsa la euro zona hacía 2da Edad Media... debe ser disuelta para cambiar el rumbo hacia la Edad Dorada." Esa síntesis tiene como trasfondo que el ambiente de democracia representativa en que se negocia el rescate sigue impulsando a Grecia y por supuesto a otros países de Europa en el rumbo contrario al que conviene, que es el que identificaron emocionalmente los indignados del 15-M en el año 2011. Por eso el referéndum no debe ser a título personal como lo plantea Tsipras, sino para decidir en Syriza si mantienen su apoyo a la democracia representativa o cambian el rumbo hacia la democracia directa que es la que lleva a la Edad Dorada. En ese sentido, por ejemplo, vean la siguiente conversación de tuits, que tiene a nivel central un enlace corto que lleva a la nota “¿Debería la Eurozona alertar sobre las vulnerabilidades que le acarrea el FMI?”</div>
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No me refería a las actuaciones del momento, sino a tus pareceres a los que asocié aquellas actuaciones de los cubanos y los chinos. Tratando de cerrar brechas, pregunto sobre tus nuevos pareceres ¿concuerdas entonces con la llegada de una nueva civilización muy diferente a la industrial y de un nuevo orden global? Será shumpeteriano en vez de marxista o keynesiano?</div>
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¿No será eso lo que Fidel Castro intentó sin lograrlo?¿No será eso lo que los chinos intentaron hace como 200 años cuando obviaron la llegada de la civilización industrial? La nota "Can 10 questions above politics help forecast a new world order in 2015? ( "<a href="http://bit.ly/681GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/681GMH">http://bit.ly/681GMH</a> )," reune lo que he integrado y actualizado con 6 actuaizaciones.</div>
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¿No será esa una forma muy organizada de redistribuir la pobreza? En la civilización industrial tuvo sentido que los mercado se protegieran con regulaciones, especialmente cuando se imponían los rendimientos decrecientes. El problema es que el mundo cambio y muchos de los mercados y sus empresas le sustraen valor a los clientes con la anuencia del Estado. El mundo de la 4ta revolución de la información (la 3ra fue hace como 500 años cuando llegó la imprenta) la gente de a pie está o puede estar bien preparada para entrar en contacto con el mercado sobresaliente que le asegure la oportunidad de ganar, ayudando a que con sus acciones se produzcan rendimientos crecientes. Esto solo se logra con la innovación que es la que genera riqueza.</div>
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En nuestro país lo que llegó como esa participación ciudadana se ha ido corrompiendo por el gobierno local y también gobiernos extranjeros de turno. ¿No será mejor asegurar que los mercados se vuelvan sobresalientes con alto apalancamiento sistémico positivo de forma que toda la gente tenga la oportunidad de ganar en un mundo donde la información libre cuesta muy poco?</div>
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Juan Bernardo. David Blanquer parece que concuerda en que el precio ya lo conocemos: la segunda Edad Media. Por qué no, ¿cuál sería el premio que el pueblo le diera a un estadista que los llevara a la primera Edad Dorada de la civlización sistémica?</div>
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Hola Juan Bernardo. Buena noche para ustedes. En complemento a mi primer comentario debajo de esta misma noticia, el cual aprovechó en parte nuestro intercambio de ayer debajo de la noticia "El FMI alerta sobre las vulnerabilidades de la zona euro," veo que muchas de tus ideas podrían aprovecharse para impulsar una Declaración de Interdependencia global, pero me queda una duda: me parece que concentras tu atención en la redistribución del ingreso por medio de los Estados (que lamentablemente impulsan la corrupción sistémica), mientras sugiero que hay un gran espacio para la innovación. De eso se trata el tuit con el que te respondí hoy mismo tu tuit sobre dicha noticia. Saludos cordiales, José Antonio</div>
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Si "El primer ministro griego no tiene una mayoría para aprobar las reformas que impone la UE," podrá tener primero el apoyo de los españoles que están de acuerdo con en tuit: de @gmh_upsa "La #Troika que impulsa #EuropeIN hacía 2da Edad Media @A1R1M158 @Ric_Rod_Fra debe ser disuelta para cambiar el rumbo hacia la Edad Dorada." Si logra tal apoyo, estoy seguro que logrará el apoyo de una masa crítica de ciudadanos europeos, aunque parezca un contrasentido, que estén de acuerdo que en vez de esas reformas de la Troika lo que se necesita es una transformación que cambie el rumbo hacia dicha Edad Dorada respondiendo afirmativamente la nota "¿Debería la Eurozona alertar sobre las vulnerabilidades que le acarrea el FMI? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/28UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/28UPSA">http://bit.ly/28UPSA</a> )."</div>
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En lo que va del mes de julio, et tuit (del 17 de julio) que más impresiones (2,568) ha recebido en la cuenta @gmh_upsa es: Igual que #EuropeIN ¿podría @Almagro_OEA2015 convocar un referendum que evite desperdiciar la crisis #RepDom #Haiti?</div>
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Llamé al diálogo a dos países q comparten una isla <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RepDom?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">RepDom</span></a><a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Haiti?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">Haiti</span></a>. Una interpretación distinta es tergiversación. <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="https://twitter.com/sergiojellinek/status/622080840948940800" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="https://t.co/qoV1rsPDWS" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="https://twitter.com/sergiojellinek/status/622080840948940800"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">https://</span>twitter.com/sergiojellinek<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">/status/622080840948940800 </span>…</a></div>
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Igual que <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a> ¿podría <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="2802545808" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/Almagro_OEA2015" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">Almagro_OEA2015</span></a> convocar un referendum <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/895GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/YXHYMfHafJ" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/895GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/895GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a> que evite desperdiciar la crisis <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RepDom?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">RepDom</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Haiti?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">Haiti</span></a>?</div>
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Deben ser ideas claras para la democracia representativa que corresponden a la civilización industrial. ¿Serán también claras para la democracia directa que nos toca vivir en la civilización que llamo sistémica?</div>
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Reitero mi comentario que se incia con "En vez de Rajoy y de Mas, ¿tendrán los catalanes una mejor opción que sirva de ejemplo para otras comunidades españolas, de la Unión Europea y del mundo?."</div>
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En vez de Rajoy y de Mas, ¿tendrán los catalanes una mejor opción que sirva de ejemplo para otras comunidades españolas, de la Unión Europea y del mundo?. Esta noticia, que propongo está fuera de la realidad, está centrada en la democracia representativa y se debate entre cumplir la ley de parte de Rajoy e independizar a cataluña de parte de Mas es algo que pudo muy bien ocurrir mucho antes de que llegara la 4ta revolución de la información. Para que tengan una idea de lo que está pasando en la realidad que toma en cuenta la 4ta revolución de la información, hoy mismo llegamos a la conclusión de que "La Troika que impulsa zona Euro hacía segunda Edad Media debe ser disuelta para cambiar el rumbo hacia la Edad Dorada." Simplemente hace falta que los líderes idóneos del 15-M se organicen para impulsar la democracia directa, como se puede ver, por ejemplo, en la nota "¿Debería la Eurozona alertar sobre las vulnerabilidades que le acarrea el FMI? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/28UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/28UPSA">http://bit.ly/28UPSA</a> )."</div>
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Vean por favor la nota "¿Debería la Eurozona altertar sobre las vulnerabilidades que le acarrea el FMI? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/28UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/28UPSA">http://bit.ly/28UPSA</a> )," donde integré el intercambio con Juan Bernardo y el intento de intercambio con David Blanquer. También incorporé un video con la noticia de Telesur "FMI pide a España un nuevo recorte de los salarios."</div>
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Por eso es que necesitamos desmontar la corrupción sistémica local e internacional al cambiar de la democracia representativa con una ley de electricidad que protege el FMI a la democracia directa. De eso es que se trata la nota "Was the Smart Grid 2025 a transition scenario? Do we need a transformation scenario? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/02UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/02UPSA">http://bit.ly/02UPSA</a> )," que sugiero le dedique tiempo a leerla antes de saltar a conclusiones equivocadas.</div>
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Mira como RD-Haiti pueden ir a la civilización sistémica y como China se quedó retrasada en la industrial. En La Tercera Ola, Alvin Toffler, destacó la cualidad de la arquitectura de sistemas común de las naciones de la civilización industrial, cuando concluye que: “… vemos aquí esbozadas las estructuras comunes de todas las naciones de la Segunda Ola, con independencia de sus diferencias culturales o climáticas, con independencia de su herencia étnica y religiosa, con independencia de que se autotitulen Capitalistas o Comunistas. “Estas estructuras paralelas, tan fundamentales en la ex Unión Soviética y Hungría como en Alemania, Francia o Canadá, fijaron los límites dentro de los que se expresaban las diferencias políticas, sociales y culturales. Surgieron por todas partes sólo después de encarnizadas batallas políticas, culturales y económicas entre quienes intentaban preservar las estructuras de la Primera Ola y los que comprendían que sólo una nueva Civilización podría resolver los difíciles problemas de la vieja.”</div>
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Esas son creencias que han perdurado por mucho tiempo. Las recetas del FMI que se vendían como reformas estructurales confirmaban esas creencias. Pero resulta que las recetas del FMI no son en la gran mayoría de los casos estructurales. El caso de los teléfonos celulares es un ejemplo con el que se saltó las instalaciones físicas de redes generó un cambio de conducta rapídisma para la gente que vive en las zonas rurales. Para cambiar el comportamiento de la gente basta con que le ofrezcan algo que no están esperando pero les encantará. Así fue como Steve Jobs cambió la cultura en tres o cuatro industrias con cambios verdaderamente estructurales.</div>
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Cuando escribí eso pensé que podíamos necesitar todo ese tiempo, pero con los avances logrados creo que se puede reducir al 2050, si empleamos la sabiduría para saltar la civilización industrial en todo lo que sea posible para ir directamente a la Edad Dorada, a la que solo le quedan 20 ó 30 años.</div>
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Sin tomarlo personal, lo cual sería un grave error, respeto su opinión. A la gran mayoría de la gente lo han educado para aprender del pasado, como nos enseño Henry Ford para la 4ta revolución tecnológica de la civilización industrial. Pero hay gente que es capaz de aprender del futuro emergente, como nos enseño Steve Jobs. Eso es lo que los Indignados de Clase Media intuyeron emocionalmente y que luego de muchos intentos de notas emergío en la conversación de tuit del contenido externo en respuesta al Editorial de El País "Sin mayorías claras," sobre como lograr mayorías claras respondiendo "¿Podrán los que apelan a la imagen del 15-M llevar la Eurozona a la Edad Dorada?"</div>
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Sea cierto o no lo que usted describe, entiendo que no es algo exclusivo de Puerto Rico, ya que según otros comentarios similares al suyo dicen algo parecido de Grecia. Suponiendo que sea cierto para esos dos países, ¿no será que eso sucede porque el sistema que ha generado esa burbuja grandísima de deuda necesita ser cambiado por uno que sea sostenible? Le tengo pena a Puerto Rico y a Grecia si le siguen dando las recetas que sugieren los expertos del FMI, ya que ellas mantienen la corrupción sistémica. En sentido, sugiero que Estados Unidos aplica lo mismo que sugiere la nota "¿Debería la Eurozona alertar sobre las vulnerabilidades que le acarrea el FMI? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/28UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/28UPSA">http://bit.ly/28UPSA</a> )."</div>
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Muchas gracias por la atenta respuesta sobre un tema que no domino. El que si domino se corresponde con mi sugerencia de la oportunidad que tenemos para dejar de lado el rumbo que siguen muchos países, como Grecia y Puerto Rico hacia la 2da Edad Media. Destaco ahora la oportunidad que tienen esos dos países en la transformación de sus sectores eléctricos, que son grandes generadores de deuda. En Grecia es uno de los temas de negociación. Si escuché bien, la tercera parte de la deuda de Puerto Rico es en su sector eléctrico. En tal sentido, y este es mi tema principal, Puerto Rico y Grecia deben evitar la privatización de las ganancias y la socialización de las pérdidas como existe en República Dominicana, España y otros lugares, haciendo una verdadera reestructuración de su mercado eléctrico, para lograr, por ejemplo, un servicio eléctrico sobresaliente ( <a href="http://bit.ly/081GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/081GMH">http://bit.ly/081GMH</a> )," que estará en el rumbo de la Edad Dorada.</div>
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¿No sería que la decisión era militar: Puerto Rico era tan bueno o mejor que la Bahía de Samaná que ellos también querían?</div>
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Gracias por la pregunta. Mira por favor la respuesta que le ofrecí a Tekke Dojan en la "Segunda actualización. ¿Serán Servidores-líderes los que impulsarán la Edad Dorada?" de la nota "¿Aumentarías las impresiones intentando cambiar el rumbo hacia la Edad Dorada? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/33UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/33UPSA">http://bit.ly/33UPSA</a> )."</div>
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Carlos Cazon<a class="respondea" href="https://www.blogger.com/null" id="enlacemostrarrespuesta_1438633318-0a212154eeb3a80fbb396deedae142a9" style="background: url("/Iconos/v1.x/v1.0/sprite_neutro.png") 1px -744px no-repeat transparent; border: 0.1em solid rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #777777; cursor: pointer; display: inline-block; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; height: 1.5em; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.5em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: middle; width: 2em;" title="Ver mensaje al que responde"></a></div>
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Muchas gracias Carlos por su modesto resumen. ¿Entonces, Grecia no está a dos velas y también con mucho mar alrededor? Si viviéramos en el mundo de los tiempos de independencia, puede que les faltara un Varoufakis. Sin embargo, vivimos en un mundo altamente interdependiente y un solo Varoufakis es más que suficiente para abrir la puerta hacia el cambio de rumbo que en vez de un debate desde la dirección actual de la 2da Edad Media necesita que hagamos dialogos generativos para dirigirnos hacia la Edad Dorada en todos los países que tengan la voluntad de crearla. Estados Unidos (puede que empezando con Puerto Rico) y Europa (...con Grecia) tienen el mismo problema de arquitectura de sistemas complejos, que se debe iniciar con una Declaración de Interdependencia, como sugiero en el enlace externo.</div>
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Gabriel Delpino<a class="respondea" href="https://www.blogger.com/null" id="enlacemostrarrespuesta_1438607807-5b041e48038d4eb87a303179fdc974e0" style="background: url("/Iconos/v1.x/v1.0/sprite_neutro.png") 1px -744px no-repeat transparent; border: 0.1em solid rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #777777; cursor: pointer; display: inline-block; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; height: 1.5em; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.5em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: middle; width: 2em;" title="Ver mensaje al que responde"></a></div>
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He observado todos sus comentarios, que entiendo están basados en aprender del pasado. ¿No estarán ellos basados en un sentido común que necesita actualizarse para también aprender del futuro emergente? Mi primer comentario en defensa de la íntima relación entre las crisis de deuda en Grecia y en Puerto Rico ha sido integrada a la ya mencionda nota "¿Aumentarías las impresiones intentando cambiar el rumbo hacia la Edad Dorada? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/33UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/33UPSA">http://bit.ly/33UPSA</a> )," como parte de la tercera actualización "¿Cambió Yanis Varoufakis la historia de la Eurozona?," que luego envié por Twitter como parte de una conversación de tuits que aparece abajo como contenido externo. Espero sus atentas observaciones.</div>
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A <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="274013085" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/claudiperez" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">claudiperez</span></a>: ¿Cambió <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="124690469" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/yanisvaroufakis" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">yanisvaroufakis</span></a> la historia <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/33UPSA" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/c8aIgsGEXS" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/33UPSA"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/33UPSA<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a> de la <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a>? <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="125647371" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/agvicente" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">agvicente</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="205457327" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/Guillemmartnez" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">Guillemmartnez</span></a><a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="305835391" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/camilocnn" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">camilocnn</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="21694413" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/gfrias" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">gfrias</span></a></div>
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José Luis Martín<a class="respondea" href="https://www.blogger.com/null" id="enlacemostrarrespuesta_1438600913-efe69f1a45f67b99463c1b38de3428e7" style="background: url("/Iconos/v1.x/v1.0/sprite_neutro.png") 1px -744px no-repeat transparent; border: 0.1em solid rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #777777; cursor: pointer; display: inline-block; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; height: 1.5em; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.5em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: middle; width: 2em;" title="Ver mensaje al que responde"></a></div>
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Como puedes ver en la nota "Why the Eurozone leaders must change their common sense first ( <a href="http://bit.ly/529GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/529GMH">http://bit.ly/529GMH</a> )," diferimos en el sentido común. La gran cantidad de comentarios que aparecen debajo de estas noticias ofrecen por lo general colaboraciones de cantidad que se corresponden al sentido común que los líderes de la Eurozona deben cambiar. Al cambiar el debate a uno que genera duda sobre el Eurogrupo, Yanis ha cambiado la historia que ahora admite un cambio de sentido común, donde caben colaboraciones de calidad que requieren más de 1,120 caracteres para desarrollarse. Por eso, sugiero que veas mi respuesta en las tres actualizaciones de la nota "¿Aumentarías las impresiones intentando cambiar el rumbo hacia la Edad Dorada? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/33UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/33UPSA">http://bit.ly/33UPSA</a> )," La 1ra le ofrece un comentario sobre la colaboración de calidad que ocurre por la puerta que Yanis abrió. La 2da integra nuestros intercambios anteriores y trae semejanzas entre las crisis de Puerto Rico y Grecia. En la 3ra incluyo este intercambio y sobre Puerto Rico que abunda sobre las diferencias de sentido común.</div>
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Este artículo trata de resaltar las diferencias entre las crisis de Puerto Rico y de Grecia basándose en el pensamiento Cartesiano, suponiendo que la causa y el efecto están cercanos en el tiempo y el espacio. Hoy Fareed Zakaria explicó lo que está sucediendo en el Libano con la crisis de basura, sin lograr nombrar un jefe de gobierno 26 veces consecutivas. Sin embargo, estas tres crisis no son más que crisis sistémicas dos de deuda y la otra de basura donde la democracia representativa no se corresponde con los tiempos de elevada interdependencia que vive hoy la humanidad. Esas tres crisis se resuelven con la democracia directa. En tal sentido, sugiero que pongan atención a la Segunda actualización "¿Serán Servidores-líderes los que impulsarán la Edad Dorada?" de la nota "¿Aumentarías las impresiones intentando cambiar el rumbo hacia la Edad Dorada? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/33UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/33UPSA">http://bit.ly/33UPSA</a> )," donde con base al pensamiento sistémico, en que la causa y el efecto están alejados en el tiempo, el espacio o ambos a la vez, se tratan las grandes semejanzas sobre cómo resolver las crisis de Puerto Rico y de Grecia.</div>
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Puerto Rico no se puede convertir en la Grecia del Caribe. Con toda certeza Puerto Rico es la Grecia del Caribe. En ambas la corrupción sistémica que impulsa la democracia representativa sigue el axioma del pensamiento sistémico, "mientras más sistémico, más local," en lo que se refiere al crecimiento exponencial de la deuda que está a punto de explotar como una gran burbuja financiera. Si lo que sigue es “habrá política” que es lo mismo que seguirá la corrupción sistémica, aumentará la velocidad en el rumbo hacia la 2da Edad Media. Para entender mejor que puedes hacer al respecto por encima de la política, sugiero empezar, por ejemplo, con la nota "¿Aumentarías las impresiones intentando cambiar el rumbo hacia la Edad Dorada? (<a href="http://bit.ly/33UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/33UPSA">http://bit.ly/33UPSA</a> )."</div>
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Es que no se trata solo del pueblo griego. Se trata de España, Portugal, Italia, Puerto Rico. Se trata también de muchos otros países del mundo con graves problemas sistémicos en lo que se ha venido a llamer la Base de la Pirámide. No se trata de los ideales de una persona -- no se trata de ideología de izquierda, ni de derecha, sino de capitalismo sobresaliente. Se puede hacer un referendo griego para empezar el proceso, pero en realidad debe ser uno europeo, como sugiere la nota "Referendums on the transformation to direct democracy, might start with Electricity Pacts in Europe, USA and OAS ( <a href="http://bit.ly/899GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/899GMH">http://bit.ly/899GMH</a> )," que signiifica "Los referendos sobre la transformación a la democracia directa, podrían empezar con Pactos Eléctricos en Europa, Estados Unidos y en la OEA." La gran desigualdad que produce la corrupción sistémica (que sustrae valor en vez de agregarlo) en todo el mundo es como dices " Simple y llanamente me parece criminal sacrificar al pueblo..." no solo griego.</div>
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Muchas gracias por la pregunta. Abajo hago una traducción libre de un extracto del resumen analítico del artículo "Unleashing a golden age after the financial collapse: Drawing lessons from history ( <a href="http://bit.ly/35UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/35UPSA">http://bit.ly/35UPSA</a> )," escrito por la Dra. Carlota Pérez que supuso que estamos en la 5ta revolución tecnológica de la revolución industrial. El título es algo así como "Desatando una edad dorada después de que el colapso financiero: extrayendo lecciones de la historia." El extracto dice así: " Las llamadas Edad Doradas en los dos últimos siglos (el boom victoriano, la Belle Époque, la Edad Dorada de la posguerra) han seguido las recesiones post-burbuja. Después de los gobiernos salvar a los bancos y reactivar la economía, necesitan regular y reorientar las finanzas hacia la economía real, mientras que el fomento del crecimiento sinérgico en direcciones acordadas." Mi humilde aporte es que estamos en 1ra revolución tecnológica de otra civilización donde ocurre un importante cambio de rumbo hacia la democracia directa que lleva a otra Edad Dorada.</div>
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¡Tienes en parte razón! Mira por favor mi comentario a José Luis Martín.</div>
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Precisamente me concentraré en "Pero ganamos la guerra: hemos cambiado el debate." Si ha cambiado el debate por otro debate no ha ganado la guerra. Sin embargo, la gran mayoría de la gente le debe dar las gracias por haber cambiado el debate, aunque no haya ganado la guerra. Lo que sucede es que el debate necesita ser cambiado por un diálogo generativo en el que todas las fuerzas de Europa (y luego del mundo) unen sus esfuerzos amparados en la abundancia para cambiar los debates de la civilización industrial donde el statu quo, en el caso de Europa la troika, siempre gana por el poder del dinero que domina vía la corrupción sistémica en la democracia representativa. Esos diálogos generativos serían para cambiar del rumbo actual que impulsa la troika hacia la 2da Edad Media a la Edad Dorada de la 1ra revolución tecnológica de lo vengo llamando la civilización sistémica que se impulsa con la democracia directa. Para más detalles, ver por favor la nota "¿Aumentarías las impresiones intentando cambiar el rumbo hacia la Edad Dorada? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/33UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/33UPSA">http://bit.ly/33UPSA</a>)."</div>
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Me parece un comentario bastante equilibrado con base a aprender sobre el pasado. Lo que sigue se basa en aprender también del futuro emergente que no es la continuación del pasado. ¿Será que España, Grecia, Portugal, Italia y la mayoría de la gente de Europa van rumbo a la 2da Edad Media como consecuencia de que la democracia representativa de la civilización industrial se agotó? En la primera actualización de la nota "¿Aumentarías las impresiones intentando cambiar el rumbo hacia la Edad Dorada? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/33UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/33UPSA">http://bit.ly/33UPSA</a> )," he repetido mi primer comentario debajo de esta noticia, donde le he preguntado a la autora de este artículo vía Twitter, Claudi Pérez, algo así como "¿Correría Europa (no solo España) el peligro que sugiere Yanis Varoufakis sobre Grecia si cambia su rumbo a la Democracia Directa (como es definida en la cuenta de Twitter @gmh_upsa)?" ¿Cree usted que ella debe contestar o al menos divulgarlo por los medios informativos para ayudar a enterar a la gente de la oportunidad de cambiar el rumbo hacia la Edad Dorada?</div>
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Con más de 350 colaboraciones, que asumo (si estoy equivocado favor aclarar) son de cantidad, es muy probable que este comentario sea como una aguja en un pajar. Sin embargo, lo intentaré. Todo lo que quiero introducir con esta colaboración de calidad es el tuit (ver contenido externo) que en ‘cristiano’ le pregunta a Claudi Pérez, la distinguida autora de esta noticia, ¿Correría Europa (no solo España) el peligro que sugiere Yanis Varoufakis sobre Grecia si cambia su rumbo a la Democracia Directa (como es definida en la cuenta de Twitter @gmh_upsa)?</div>
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“España aún corre el peligro de acabar como Grecia” <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://ow.ly/QmACH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/OTLjKrcyx6" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://ow.ly/QmACH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>ow.ly/QmACH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a> Avance de la entrevista a Yanis Varoufakis <a class="PrettyLink link media customisable" data-pre-embedded="true" data-scribe="" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/GwB3zhPmxJ" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;">pic.twitter.com/GwB3zhPmxJ</a></div>
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Todo este panorama es el resultado de la importancia excesiva que se da a la democracia representativa como si no estuviese emergiendo algo mucho mejor. Esto se debe a que no es conocida la gran oportunidad que tiene España para invertir las situaciones de paro y la emigración del talento si sus líderes de mercado se unen para impulsar la Edad Dorada que es parte de una nueva civilización que fue lo que movió, por ejemplo, la primavera árabe, el 15M y Occupy Wall Street. Al respecto, sugiero que consideren por favor la nota "Etiquetas #Peraldel15M y #CivilizacionSistemica en el trasfondo de la cuenta @gmh_upsa ( <a href="http://bit.ly/58UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/58UPSA">http://bit.ly/58UPSA</a> )."</div>
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An emerging minimalist State political party in Spain that unites #15M market servant-leaders under direct democracy to create the first Golden Age of a new civilization might win the next elections. It’s based on a change of course scenario to the brilliant future that recognizes that the 15-M movement planted a seed back in 2001 about the emergence of a new civilization. Such course change to transition to the new civilization has a huge work opportunity on non-repetitive jobs that closely aligns worker performance to today’s volatile environment as John Hagel explains in the video. There is one key example available on how to start such a process towards the Golden Age in the Electricity Pact of the Dominican Republic that resolves the deep structural problems with direct democracy that the IMF was unable to address under representative democracy with their simplistic recipes. To see the above mentioned video and today’s Spanish scenario, please take look at the post “A proposal Spanish voter is not expecting but might love is anchored on electricity pact ( <a href="http://bit.ly/60UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/60UPSA">http://bit.ly/60UPSA</a> ).”</div>
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España irá detrás si el objetivo del rescate es seguir el rumbo hacia el destino de la 2da Edad Media, porque el FMI es "indispensable" como protector de la civilización industrial. Ese acuerdo es para aumentar la eficiencia, por ejemplo, con: 1) “necesidades exactas” del BCE en un mundo incierto, 2) la aspiración de Alemania y Holanda y 3) “los acreedores quieren apretar más las tuercas,” todo esto sin cambiar primero de rumbo lo que se hace es llegar más pronto al destino. Sin embargo, si el rescate se hará para empezar a cambiar el rumbo de Grecia (como se puede hacer en España y por supuesto en toda Europa) hacia la #EdadDorada de la 1ra revolución tecnológica de la #CivilizacionSistemica, entonces es crucial evitar por todos medios el FMI, ya que el sistema de pensiones necesita ser reestructurado para, por ejemplo, atraer el talento que ha emigrado de Grecia y que es "indispensable" para empezar a cambiar el rumbo. Para comprender lo que se sugiere empiecen, por favor, con la nota "Etiquetas #Peraldel15M y #CivilizacionSistemica en el trasfondo de la cuenta @gmh_upsa ( <a href="http://bit.ly/58UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/58UPSA">http://bit.ly/58UPSA</a> )."</div>
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Lo que afirma Varoufakis es la pura verdad, pero desconoce lo que el futuro deparará. Diciendo que tiene una mente abierta, sugiere que las sucesivas crisis del euro van a cambiar la Unión Europea de forma profunda. Agrega que se debe adivinar lo que esta se volverá de 3 a 5 años. El problema que tiene es que sigue con una mente cerrada en cuanto a aceptar que el problema está en la democracia representativa que impulsa corrupción sistémica que mantiene el rumbo actual hacia la 2da Edad Media y que asegura que “el tercer rescate a Grecia NO va a funcionar", como sugerí en mi primer comentario. El cambio de forma profunda de la Unión Europea necesita crearse para implantar el cambio de rumbo que lleva a la mencionada Edad Dorada abonando el peral que el 15-M sembró. El “visto bueno el Eurogrupo —la reunión de los 19 ministros de Finanzas de la eurozona—, que se celebrará el viernes en Bruselas,” confirmará con casi toda certeza que el recate mantendrá el rumbo equivocado.</div>
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Contrario a España, Grecia no tiene futuro porque está negociando acuerdos técnicos sin la posibilidad de cambiar el rumbo a donde dirigirse que es la 2da Edad Media. Todo parece indicar que la imposición de las 35 medidas prioritarias se ejecutará. Por eso, lo más importante que puede hacerse en España es cambiar su rumbo a la Edad Dorada de la civilización emergente. Sepan que España tiene lo que necesita y que aparece en la nota "¿Sembró el 15-M el peral? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/48UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/48UPSA">http://bit.ly/48UPSA</a> )." Esa nota se puso en suspenso el 9 de agosto en la "1ra actualización: ¿Será 'pedir peras al olmo' un Pacto Eléctrico "que promueva algún cambio sustancial en la vida nacional"? ," de la otra nota "Convirtamos el Pacto Eléctrico en un peral para la Clase Media (<a href="http://bit.ly/50UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/50UPSA">http://bit.ly/50UPSA</a> ),” dado que hubo dudas sobre la relación causa efecto entre dichas notas. Sin embargo, con la "3ra actualización. Hace falta una estrategia de trayectoria en el Pacto Eléctrico," revela de forma contundente como abonando el peral se puede resolver el paro en España y otros lugares, por lo que dicho suspenso puede ahora ser retirado.</div>
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Lo que sigue parece que está cumpliendo con lo que Joseph Jaworski llama la la sincronicidad (cuyo origen se remonta a Carl Jung), mi tradución de su libro Sinchronicity. Sugiero que lo mejor para los españoles y en la mayoría de los países del mundo (por no decir todos) es reducir significativamente sus presupuestos que son necesariamente inestables porque el mundo cambió y mucho. El cambio se debe a que la civilización industrial no solo se saturó, sino que se expandió en exceso al tiempo que están dadas las condiciones de la civilización emergente que los Indignados de clase media identificaron en 15M del 2011. Como pueden ver, por ejemplo, en la nota "Convirtamos el Pacto Eléctrico en un peral para la Clase Media (<a href="http://bit.ly/50UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/50UPSA">http://bit.ly/50UPSA</a> )," similar al español, el presupuesto dominicano es también un olmo al que no se le puede pedir peras. Esa nota se apoya en la nota " ¿Sembró el 15-M el peral? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/48UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/48UPSA">http://bit.ly/48UPSA</a> )," que sugiere una tercera opción con los partidos emergentes que quieran unirse en el centro para hacer que la sabiduría prime sobre el dinero.</div>
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En consonancia con mi comentario anterior, hace 10 meses que escribí la nota "La In(ter)dependencia responde a lo que le preocupa a la gente ( <a href="http://bit.ly/574GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/574GMH">http://bit.ly/574GMH</a> )," donde en su primera actualización de marzo de 2015 sugerí "que el empresariado catalán se una para impulsar una Declaración de In(ter)dependencia con España, donde los gobiernos adopten el capitalismo sobresaliente, se vuelvan minimalistas y se refuercen mutuamente para pasar a la primera Edad Dorada de la civilización sistémica."</div>
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Cuando el Sr. Maroto dice que “El ministro Catalá sabe, como sabemos en la dirección nacional, que cualquier reforma en este ámbito, de amplio calado, requiere primero de un debate interno, sosegado, saber para qué se propone, en qué condiciones y qué acuerdos se tienen. Entonces y sólo entonces es cuando hay que hacerlo público,” ofrece una prueba contundente de que el PP, al igual que el PSOE son olmos aunque muy diferentes que son incapaces de dar peras. Está comprobado que en los debates siempre gana el más poderoso que es el statu quo y por eso fue que en el en el 2011 el 15-M sembró la semilla de un peral que crece con el diálogo generativo entre los emergentes que decidan abonar ese tendrán la oportunidad de hacer que los españoles reciban peras sin tener que pedirlas como se sugiere en el contenido externo.</div>
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Se puede decir que hay un campo muy parecido al magnético que está atrayendo una confluencia, por ejemplo, en la nota "¿Sembró el 15-M el peral? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/48UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/48UPSA">http://bit.ly/48UPSA</a>), que al identificar al PSOE y al PP con el olmo y a los emergentes con el peral que deben abonar, genera un nuevo punto de la conversación de tuits que aparece pulsando dos veces el contenido externo en sitios en blanco.</div>
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Muchas gracias por la oportunidad que me ofreces para que ustedes puedan enterarse de esta “colaboración de calidad” sobre el cambio de rumbo, cuya importancia de lo que aparece entre comillas explico al final. Puede decirse que dicha colaboración está muy bien respaldada, por ejemplo, con las siguientes tres notas: 1) “Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará ( <a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )," la cual como pueden ver ya tiene 10 actualizaciones. 2) "¿Debería la Eurozona alertar sobre las vulnerabilidades que le acarrea el FMI? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/28UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/28UPSA">http://bit.ly/28UPSA</a> )," en la cual aparece en negritas la afirmación "España tiene la mayor oportunidad para ayudar a la Eurozona y al mundo a cambiar de rumbo." Y 3) “¿Podrá Pacto Eléctrico RD crear ejemplo reestructuración con Democracia Directa a Grecia y Puerto Rico? (<a href="http://bit.ly/45UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/45UPSA">http://bit.ly/45UPSA</a> ),” que también sirve como un ejemplo didáctico de la gran diferencia entre las colaboraciones de calidad y las de cantidad, como las que se acostumbra en estos intercambios. ¿Quieres más?</div>
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Como he venido repitiendo "España tiene la mayor oportunidad para ayudar a la Eurozona y al mundo a cambiar de rumbo." Tal cambio de rumbo es desde la democracia representativa que lleva a la 2da Edad Media hacia la #DemocraciaDirecta que lleva a la #ClaseMedia a la #Edad Dorada (esas 3 etiquetas – hashtags en inglés - han sido caracterizadas tentativamente hoy mismo en Twitter al abrir un #DialogoGenerativo). El problema es que dicha gran oportunidad no está en una reforma constitucional, por ejemplo, para corregir lo que no funciona en España,” como lo que sugirió ayer Albert Rivera, el presidente de Ciudadanos. Aunque la palabra reforma fue poderosa hace 500 años con la reforma protestante, desde entonces ha perdido toda su fuerza para funcionar como un proceso de transición en que el futuro es una continuación del pasado. Lo que se necesita es una transformación constitucional, en el que el futuro deja de ser una continuación del pasado. Como pueden ver en la conversación del contenido externo, lo que le conviene a España, Europa y al mundo es hacer lo que nunca se ha hecho.</div>
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¿Propone Rivera mejorar lo que está mal en democracia representativa?¿Debería <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="232318116" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/CsProfesionales" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">CsProfesionales</span></a> considerar <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DemocraciaDirecta?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">DemocraciaDirecta</span></a> (de <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="4357271" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/gmh_upsa" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">gmh_upsa</span></a>)?</div>
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"¿Por qué no se hace con los árabes como se hizo conmigo?" porque artificialmente se vive en un mundo en que se supone que la independencia es lo supremo, cuando vivimos en un mundo cada vez más interdepedendiente que puede reorganizarse para desarrollar suficiente abundancia que da para todos.</div>
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Es prácticamente imposible que la incertidumbre estructural desaparezca negociando bajo las recetas del FMI como parte de la cuadriga. Lo que el FMI está acostumbrado a llamar reforma estructural, regularmente de estructural no tiene nada como podrán ver en la colaboración de calidad que aparece en en el Blog Grupo Millennium Hispaniola. Siguiendo un video de 3 minutos donde en el año 2008 Alvin Toffler reiteró el fin de la era industrial, es fácil comprender que necesitamos crear la Tercera Ola que él presagió en 1980. Dada esa introducción, sugiero que consideren por favor la "Primera actualización: ¿Debería beneficiar a la Clase Media el Pacto Eléctrico RD, así como a la de Europa y Estados Unidos?" de la nota "¿Podrá Pacto Eléctrico RD crear ejemplo reestructuración con Democracia Directa a Grecia y Puerto Rico? (<a href="http://bit.ly/45UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/45UPSA">http://bit.ly/45UPSA</a> )."</div>
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En seguimiento de una larga discusión debajo de al noticia "Puerto Rico: ni Grecia, ni Detroit," escrita también por Amanda Mars, la autora de esta otra noticia, para El País, del pasado 2 de agosto de 2015, elaboré la nota "¿Podrá Pacto Eléctrico RD crear ejemplo reestructuración con Democracia Directa a Grecia y Puerto Rico? (<a href="http://bit.ly/41UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/41UPSA">http://bit.ly/41UPSA</a> )." Dicha nota tiene como punto de partida el video de 3 minutos "Alvin Toffler - El fin de la era industrial." En el mismo verán cual es la reestructuración que deben hacer República Dominicana, Grecia y Puerto Rico en sus sectores eléctricos.</div>
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Gracias por la bandeja de plata que me ofrece. Un propósito simple y claro: cambiar del rumbo actual de donde llevan, por ejemplo, a Puerto Rico y Grecia, que es a la 2da Edad Media de la civilización industrial hacia el rumbo de la Edad Dorada de la civilización sistémica. Ese rumbo actual, por ejemplo, en Dominicana lo hacen con reglas y regulaciones complejas, como las que quieren imponer en Grecia y Puerto Rico, diciendo engañosamente que van a reestructurar, usando colaboraciones de cantidad para lograr consenso con justificaciones de primer y segundo nivel, cuando lo que se requieren son colaboraciones de calidad que son las que en verdad ofrecen las justificaciones del tercer nivel, el estructural, que es el que responde “¿Qué causa los patrones de conducta?” Lo anterior es una aplicación de la cita: "Un propósito y principios simples y claros dan lugar a un comportamiento complejo e inteligente. Reglas y regulaciones complejas dan lugar a un comportamiento simple y estúpido." -- Dee Hock, el CEO Emerito de VISA Internacional.</div>
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Aprendí algo sobre la nueva acepción de la palabra forero. Contrario a los que les encanta participar en debates, como en de si la crisis de Grecia y la de Puerto Rico se parecen o no, la experiencia ha comprobado que las colaboraciones de cantidad llevan con alta probabilidad a que el statu quo gane con recursos simplistas que engatusan a los foreros para concluir que no se parecen. Para confirmar que la crisis sí se parece, hace falta aceptar que se trate como un tema sujeto a grandes complejidades y gran incertidumbre, como se explica en la colaboración de calidad que aparece en la nota " Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará (<a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )." Como pueden ver los que no quieren dejarse engañar, dicha nota dice que en esos casos se necesita el tercer nivel de explicación (¿Qué causa los patrones de conducta? ), en vez de los del primer nivel de explicación (le hicimos qué a quien) o del segundo nivel de explicación (sobre patrones de conducta ) que corresponden a colaboraciones de cantidad.</div>
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¿Forero? ¿quieres sacarme de mis casillas? Jajaja... Mi Larousse viejo no dice, por supuesto nada de foros. Dice: "Forero: perteneciente o hecho conforme a fuero... El que paga foro. ¿Tu pagas foro? Entiendo muy bien que el tema del Smart Grid es tan especializado, que no le permite a la gran mayoría de la gente que hace contribuciones de cantidad, participar en colaboraciones de calidad.</div>
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Le respondí a jobame bame su pregunta "¿Qué es "una ley de electricidad que protege al FMI"?," pero ahora comprobé que en ocasiones no se liga su nombre a mi respuesta.</div>
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Una ley que por mucho tiempo se basó en la receta simplista del Cash Recovery Index (CRI), que fue sugerida por el Banco Mundial, si mal no recuerdo en el 2004. Ese mismo Banco Mundial es el que ampara el consenso (sujeto a corrupcción sistémica) Bessant-Jones, que describo en la nota "Retuitea a Tsipras para que su referendo logre claridad política ( <a href="http://bit.ly/32UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/32UPSA">http://bit.ly/32UPSA</a> )."</div>
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Por eso es que necesitamos desmontar la corrupción sistémica local e internacional al cambiar de la democracia representativa con una ley de electricidad que protege el FMI a la democracia directa. De eso es que se trata la nota "Was the Smart Grid 2025 a transition scenario? Do we need a transformation scenario? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/02UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/02UPSA">http://bit.ly/02UPSA</a> )," que sugiero le dedique tiempo a leerla antes de saltar a conclusiones equivocadas.</div>
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No se trata solamente de abrir “una puerta a la esperanza en Centroamérica." Se trata de reabrirla para los países que tienen crisis sistémicas que impulsan indignados en un dos por tres, como consecuencia de la burbuja en que se encuentra la democracia representativa que empezó a explotar con la primavera Árabe, los indignados del !5 M, Occupy Wall Street. Lo de Guatemala, le sigue recientemente, por ejemplo, a los indignados de Venezuela, Chile y Brasil que están llenos de emoción, pero como bien dijo Zygmunt Bauman en ocasión del 15 M le falta pensamiento. Puede muy bien ser por estos últimos movimientos de indignados que Carlos Alberto Montaner tuiteó," ¿Por qué América Latina no asciende al Primer Mundo? sobre su último artículo "Es la cultura, querido César, pero no exactamente la religión." Al respecto le respondí con el pensamiento que les falta con un tuit "Es el sistema, querido Carlos que influye sobre la cultura. Ver caso del CES Pacto Eléctrico," Pueden acceder al artículo de Montaner y a mi respuesta, pulsando el enlace que corresponde al contenido externo.</div>
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Basado en este artículo y mi primer comentario, elaboré la "Primera actualización. ¿Podrá el Pacto Eléctrico decir ¡nunca más! a la corrupción sistémica internacional con la Democracia Directa?" de la antes mencionada nota "Un espejo español para el Pacto Eléctrico ( <a href="http://bit.ly/88UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/88UPSA">http://bit.ly/88UPSA</a> )." Igualmente, coloqué un contenido externo del tuit que le envié al autor.</div>
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¿Podremos incluir en el ¡nunca más! lo que entiendo ha ocurrido en la reestructuración de los sectores eléctricos del mundo, por ejemplo, Japón, Chile, España, Grecia, Puerto Rico, República Dominicana, que describo en la nota "Un espejo español para el Pacto Eléctrico ( <a href="http://bit.ly/88UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/88UPSA">http://bit.ly/88UPSA</a> )." Dicho espejo proviene del muy oportuno artículo escrito por Jorge Morales de Labra, "¿Quién iba a decir que un simple panel solar iba a destapar las vergüenzas del sector eléctrico? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/87UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/87UPSA">http://bit.ly/87UPSA</a> )." Dicha nota la he distribuido con el mensaje "¿Podrías ayudar a que los puntos se sigan conectando para lograr que el mercado de electricidad se vuelva el mercado de comprador que debió nacer hacer 20 años?"</div>
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Privatización ganancias por democracia representantiva empresarial, laboral, social y gobierno es lo que socializa perdidas a la <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ClaseMedia?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">ClaseMedia</span></a></div>
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El paradigma de la democracia representativa es muy poderoso, pero es una restricción ficticia que permite que partidos de derecha y de izquierda tengan la posibilidad de ganar las elecciones. El caso de la derecha de Donald Trump tiene precedentes en Europa. El fracaso de Tsipras es que no entendió que su rol debe ser a favor de reducir el espacio de la democracia representativa que impulsa la corrupción sistémica tanto en partidos de derecha como de izquierda. Es así como se llega a la conclusión de que los están preparados para impulsar lo que inició el movimiento 15-M lo que le conviene es reducir la burbuja de la democracia representativa que está por explotar, impulsando la democracia directa, como sugiero en la nota "Un cambio de paradigma para el Pacto Eléctrico ( <a href="http://bit.ly/68UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/68UPSA">http://bit.ly/68UPSA</a> )," que en este momento tiene 3 actualizaciones: 1) "¿Podremos desmontar el capitalismo de amiguetes con el Pacto Eléctrico? " 2) "Diario Libre publicó Un cambio de paradigma para el Pacto Eléctrico." y 3) "¿Se desplomarán las bolsas con la Democracia Directa del Pacto Eléctrico?"</div>
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Todas las explicaciones son analíticas sobre patrones de conducta típicas de la civilización industrial donde domina el paradigma Cartesiano que se concentra en la independencia entre las partes. Esta gran corrección es un ejemplo claro de la interdependencia que viene reinando en el mundo por varias décadas y por tanto se trata de problema sistémico que se resuelve con la pregunta crucial ¿Qué causa los patrones de conducta? que se hizo Peter Senge en su libro La Quinta Disciplina. Su respuesta está en el “tercer nivel de explicación, el ‘estructural,’ que él dice "es el menos común y el más potente.” Sugiero que la causa estructural sintética de la corrección puede ser el descubrimiento de una burbuja impulsada por la democracia representativa que está a punto de explotar, como se puede ver en la nota "Un cambio de paradigma para el Pacto Eléctrico ( <a href="http://bit.ly/68UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/68UPSA">http://bit.ly/68UPSA</a> )," que sugiere a la electricidad en República Dominicana como el primer ejemplo de la democracia directa, citando Grecia, España y Puerto Rico como candidatos urgentes para aplicar dicho ejemplo.</div>
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¡Que no!¡Que si! El capitalismo en que gobierna el dinero puede ser que no sea honrado. Pero sugiero que está disponible el capitalismo en que gobierna la sabiduría. Si usted puede, ayúdemé a ponerme por favor en contacto con el catedrático Luis Garicano. Es para que responda al contenido externo.</div>
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Que rara tu percepción de que su artículo es malo. Entiendo que se basa en la práctica regulatoria que ejecutan las comisiones de mercado y competencia, como si el mundo no hubiese cambiado en 1972, cuando los precios de petróleo dejaron de ser bajos y estables. Desde entonces, los precios de los hidrocarburos han sido impredecibles. En mi nota 'Eso vendría después,' ( <a href="http://bit.ly/GMH823" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/GMH823">http://bit.ly/GMH823</a> )," el Dr. Pérez-Arriaga, según entiendo el líder de la reforma eléctrica de España, dijo que: “El arreglo del déficit no es materia de expertos en regulación: no tiene solución técnica, sino política… Los políticos, que crearon el déficit, deberán reunirse –aunque sea, por última vez, a puerta cerrada– entre ellos y con las empresas y consumidores, y encontrar una salida pragmática que minimice daños.” A lo que dije "Ciertamente los políticos crearon el déficit, pero ¿no será que lo hicieron inducidos por el defectuoso sistema del modelo eléctrico que no anticipó 'la forma como los usuarios compran electricidad'?" Basado en esas dos colaboraciones de calidad, ¿crees que Garicano debería responder mi comentario?</div>
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El comentario anterior fue empleado para agregar la 1ra actualización de la segunda nota "¿Podremos desmontar el capitalismo de amiguetes con el Pacto Eléctrico?" En el contenido externo aparece el acceso a la secuencia de tuit que en este momento consta de solo 2 tuits.</div>
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Cómo acabar con el capítalismo de amiguetes, mi artículo en El País de hoy <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://economia.elpais.com/economia/2015/08/20/actualidad/1440086786_530454.html" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/EP3ZDHvEzh" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://economia.elpais.com/economia/2015/08/20/actualidad/1440086786_530454.html"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>economia.elpais.com/economia/2015/<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">08/20/actualidad/1440086786_530454.html </span>…</a></div>
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Este artículo del catedrático Luis Garicano es muy oportuno, ya que mañana 24 de agosto de 2015 se inicia la Fase III del Pacto Eléctrico de la República Dominicana, que está organizada bajo esa clase de capitalismo para tratar de mejorar lo que está mal como él sugiere. ¿Habrá una forma mejor "para acabar con este capitalismo de amiguetes?” Lo más importante en este momento puede ser el descubrimiento de que ese capitalismo es producto de la democracia representativa, como se sugiere en la nota “Preventing a global representative democracy bubble explosion with electricity (<a href="http://bit.ly/71UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/71UPSA">http://bit.ly/71UPSA</a> ),” algo así como “Previniendo con electricidad una burbuja global de la democracia representativa.” Lo que se sugiere es crear un primer ejemplo de democracia directa (que introduce el capitalismo sobresaliente) para hacer lo que nunca se ha hecho amparado en la nota "Un cambio de paradigma para el Pacto Eléctrico ( <a href="http://bit.ly/68UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/68UPSA">http://bit.ly/68UPSA</a> )." Es así como los tres problemas de la democracia representativa sugeridos en dicho artículo podrían entonces disolverse (no necesitaran resolverse). ¿Qué les parece?</div>
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Gracias por darme la oportunidad de aclarar. Es probable que su reflexión sea válida sobre los partidos políticos españoles. Esa colaboración parece decir poca cosa porque no es una colaboración de cantidad que se basa en el pensamiento Cartesiano. Se trata de una colaboración de calidad que se basa en el pensamiento sistémico que produce justificaciones estructurales. El texto que aparece está extraído de la nota "Etiquetas #Peraldel15M y #CivilizacionSistemica en el trasfondo de la cuenta @gmh_upsa ( <a href="http://bit.ly/58UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/58UPSA">http://bit.ly/58UPSA</a> )," que es el que por favor sugiero que lea. La democracia representativa de la civilización industrial ha crecido demasiado quitando espacio al mercado mediocre generando un gran desequilibrio. El equilibrio llegara con la democracia directa con mercados sobresalientes. El caso griego es otro ejemplo donde la burbuja de la democracia representativa está explotando. Mi última colaboración de calidad que aplica a España y Grecia está en la nota "Un cambio de paradigma para el Pacto Eléctrico.( <a href="http://bit.ly/68UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/68UPSA">http://bit.ly/68UPSA</a> )," que también espero decida leer.</div>
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La democracia representativa es parte de una burbuja que está explotando. Sobre el movimiento 15M del enlace <a href="http://bit.ly/58UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/58UPSA">http://bit.ly/58UPSA</a> "... hasta donde se ha visto, España ha sido el país donde dicho movimiento ha inducido partidos políticos, por ejemplo, Podemos y Ciudadanos, y movimientos, como Ahora en Común, que necesitan saber del cambio de civilización que vengo llamando #CivilizacionSistemica... Mientras, por su parte, el filosofo Zygmunt Bauman, dijo que el 15-M era líquido por ser emocional y faltarle pensamiento. Dicho #Peraldel15M es una respuesta sólida que lo nutre de todo el pensamiento]... que le permite cambiar el rumbo hacia la #EdadDorada de la 1ra revolución tecnológica de la #CivilizacionSistemica. Ese cambio desde el rumbo que nos sigue llevando hacia la 2da Edad Media será penetrado paulatinamente para ir reemplazando con la #DemocraciaDirecta hasta donde sea posible el arbol del olmo de la democracia representativa de la civilización industrial... Aunque todos sabemos que a ese olmo le es imposible dar peras a los que están en paro...hace poco aprendimos como abonar el #Peraldel15M.</div>
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Muy interesante su reflexión. Al respecto, sugiero que consideres la nota "Límites que van por encima de la política ( <a href="http://bit.ly/422GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/422GMH">http://bit.ly/422GMH</a> )," la cual tiene ya 9 actualizaciones. El texto inicial se sustenta en "Como avancé esta nota va más allá del ámbito local al internacional sobre consideraciones de sistemas que están por encima de las consideraciones políticas y también de las sociales y culturales. Puedo hacer esa salvedad, al referirme a La 3ra Ola de Alvin Toffler, quien destacó esa cualidad de la arquitectura de sistemas común de las naciones de la civilización industrial, cuando concluye que: '… vemos aquí esbozadas las estructuras comunes de todas las naciones de la 2da Ola, con independencia de sus diferencias culturales o climáticas, con independencia de su herencia étnica y religiosa, con independencia de que se autotitulen Capitalistas o Comunistas....'" Así mismo, en la 2da actualización, dice " Ya sabemos el error político que China cometió llegando muy tarde a dicha civilización." Entiendo que Europa tiene una oportunidad, empezando con España y Cataluña para dar el primer paso.</div>
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Muchas gracias por responder tan rápido. Con mucho respeto, parece que has contestado a mi comentario como si fuese una colaboración de cantidad, cuando sugiero que se trata de una colaboración de calidad basada en ideas más profundas. No eres el primero en responder así: es lo normal que induce este medio de comentarios. Sugiero encarecidamente que le dediques unos minutos a leer la nota "Etiquetas #Peraldel15M y #CivilizacionSistemica en el trasfondo de la cuenta @gmh_upsa ( <a href="http://bit.ly/58UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/58UPSA">http://bit.ly/58UPSA</a> )."</div>
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Muy buena observación "Lo que hace falta por tanto es que aparezcan los interlocutores adecuados a tal efecto. Quienes están ahora no tienen pinta de ser capaces de encontrar el punto de equilibrio en una sociedad tan compleja y diversa como la catalana." Al respecto, sugiero que veas lo que le respondí a Ger man. Creo que entenderás que la complejidad y diversidad de la realidad actual no se trata solamente de los Catalanes, en el artículo que pronto tendrá un año, "Disolvamos los problemas unitarios en Escocia y Cataluña con la EcoSiNuestra ( <a href="http://bit.ly/512GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/512GMH">http://bit.ly/512GMH</a>)."</div>
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Muy buena aproximación. ¿Y si cambiamos España por democracia representativa como lo que no funciona? Así podemos agregar Grecia, Portugal, Italia y mi Rep. Dominicana. Por ser de las personas con más conocimientos y conciencia en España, a los catalanes les será fácil entender que los tiempos de la independencia empezaron con la revolución francesa, que impulsó la democracia representativa como parte de la civilización industrial. El problema fundamental no es la independencia, sino la democracia representativa que dejó de representar a la gente de forma natural en la medida en que llegó la 4ta revolución de la información y con ella una nueva civilización para un mundo cada vez más interdependiente que fue anunciada por la gente joven que impulsó el 15-M. Es en ese sentido que sugiero que vean las notas "Etiquetas #Peraldel15M y #CivilizacionSistemica en el trasfondo de la cuenta @gmh_upsa ( <a href="http://bit.ly/58UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/58UPSA">http://bit.ly/58UPSA</a> )" del 14 de agosto de 2015, y a los que sepan inglés "A proposal Spanish voter is not expecting but might love starting on electricity ( <a href="http://bit.ly/60UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/60UPSA">http://bit.ly/60UPSA</a> )," de ayer 15 de agosto.</div>
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Muchas gracias Hereje. Para que estés menos confuso, te sugiero subirte al nivel de las colaboraciones de calidad. No obstante, te puedo decir, por ejemplo, que la gente debe poder participar en un mercado sin la interferencia de amigotes bien conectados con la democracia representativa, que les permite sustraer valor amparado en regulaciones, para que se desarrolle una verdadera competencia entre comercializadores de electricidad. Ese sería el ejemplo de la democracia directa que daría la transformación del sector eléctrico de un mercado de vendedor a un mercado de comprador centrado en la gente, que podría “votar” con un suplidor mientras le agregue valor y lo cambie cuando encuentre uno mejor sin tener que esperar a la democracia representativa que hace rato dejó de representarlo.</div>
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Abusando de su tiempo, ¿no cree usted que una respuesta mucho más meditada es, por ejemplo, una como la supuesta colaboración de calidad "¿Apoyan los retuits de Cs Profesionales la in(ter)dependencia España-Cataluña?," que es la onceava actualización de la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará (<a href="http://bit.ly/818GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH">http://bit.ly/818GMH</a> )."</div>
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Gracias por su rápido comentario. ¿Puedo interpretar con algo más concreto, lo que supone que la causa y el efecto están cercanos en el tiempo y el espacio? Más concreto es lo que resulta en colaboraciones de cantidad. ¿Cuáles inversiones? Las que privatizan las ganancias a la democracia representativa y socializan las pérdidas a la gente de a pie. La colaboración de calidad responde, por ejemplo, ¿no será que hay una falta de liderazgo para enfrentar el paro con la creación de riqueza que los catalanes pueden aportar con la democracia directa que cierra, por ejemplo, la puerta giratoria? En la 1ra actualización de la referida nota "Un espejo español para el Pacto Eléctrico ( <a href="http://bit.ly/88UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/88UPSA">http://bit.ly/88UPSA</a> )," digo: “¿Podremos incluir en el ¡nunca más! lo que entiendo ha ocurrido en la reestructuración de los sectores eléctricos del mundo, por ejemplo, Japón, Chile, España, Grecia, Puerto Rico, República Dominicana... Dicho espejo proviene del muy oportuno artículo escrito por Jorge Morales de Labra, ‘¿Quién iba a decir que un simple panel solar iba a destapar las vergüenzas del sector eléctrico?’"</div>
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Basado en las mismas suposiciones, añado esto a lo que le dije en mi primer comentario a Joanot Martorell. Como pueden ver en la nota "Un espejo español para el Pacto Eléctrico ( <a href="http://bit.ly/88UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/88UPSA">http://bit.ly/88UPSA</a> )," vengo sugiriendo que la democracia representativa se ha venido acercando tanto a la dictadura que puede interpretarse como una burbuja que está por explotar. ¿No sugiere eso que la legalidad democrática se ha vuelto una ilusión peligrosa? ¿No necesitan ustedes acciones para superar ese estado de cosas que ustedes viven en Europa?¿Podrá la sociedad catalana tener un rol importante para crear riqueza en lo que sugiero en Twitter es la democracia directa de @gmh_upsa?</div>
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Interesante comentario que es diferente de la gran mayoría de las colaboraciones de cantidad que aparecen en este medio. Por eso creo hay espacio para una colaboración de calidad basada en el pensamiento sistémico, en que la causa y el efecto están alejados en el tiempo, el espacio o en ambos a la vez. Los catalanes estarían siendo impulsados hacia la 2da Edad Media con mayor velocidad que los países independientes de la Unión Europea, incluyendo por supuesto a España, en un mundo que es altamente interdependiente. Al efecto, destacando el citado gran potencial de vanguardia de los catalanes, considere usted esta colaboración que pretende ser de calidad. Se trata de la nota "La In(ter)dependencia responde a lo que le preocupa a la gente ( <a href="http://bit.ly/574GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/574GMH">http://bit.ly/574GMH</a> )," cuya tercera actualización es "Síntesis: ¿Quieren los emprendedores catalanes y dominicanos cumplir el rol de creación de riqueza a favor de su país?"</div>
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Parte 2 de 2. Lo que sigue es la introducción que corresponde a la 11ava actualización de la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará," que se accesa pulsando el contenido externo. La misma dice así: "Hoy mismo, Cs Profesionales retuitió "¿Deben los españoles y catalanes considerar la in(ter)dependencia bit.ly/574GMH de @gmh_upsa?" Sin embargo, quedan todavía dudas si ellos han profundizado en el significado de las selectas colaboraciones de calidad en que descansan los enlaces "bit.ly" de dichos tuits o si por el contrario lo han considerado simplemente como colaboraciones de cantidad, como son la gran mayoría de tuits sin trascendencia que inundan a Twitter."</div>
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¿Apoyan los retuits de <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="232318116" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/CsProfesionales" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">CsProfesionales</span></a> la in(ter)dependencia España-Cataluña de <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="4357271" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/gmh_upsa" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">gmh_upsa</span></a> <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/818GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/5NWfO97CjP" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/818GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a>? <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="108994652" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/Albert_Rivera" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">Albert_Rivera</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a></div>
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La nueva fórmula está en la in(ter)dependencia. Debajo de la noticia "Espadaler pide que “la política no espante el desarrollo económico” ( <a href="http://cort.as/XGRA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://cort.as/XGRA">http://cort.as/XGRA</a> )," coloqué dos comentarios: Parte 1 de 2. Sugiero reajustar la idea “la política no espante el desarrollo económico” con “la democracia representativa sea desinflada para que no espante el desarrollo económico, social y cultural.” En tal sentido, a primera vista, parece interesante la sugerencia de Espadaler que "ha propuesto bonificaciones fiscales del 100% para las empresas que compren equipos de I+D+i." Sin embargo, como se sustenta en la escalabilidad de la eficiencia, que es perjudicial en momento de un cambio de civilización, sugiero que los emprendedores puedan acelerar su capacidad y experiencia basadas en la escalabilidad del aprendizaje, como lo sugiere John Hagel de Deloitte.</div>
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José Antonio Vanderhorst<a class="respondea" href="https://www.blogger.com/null" id="enlacemostrarrespuesta_1442502807-c1456d8783dd23315f80f861ba5790bc" style="background: url("/Iconos/v1.x/v1.0/sprite_neutro.png") 1px -744px no-repeat transparent; border: 0.1em solid rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #777777; cursor: pointer; display: inline-block; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; height: 1.5em; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.5em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: middle; width: 2em;" title="Ver mensaje al que responde"></a></div>
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Parte 2 de 2. Lo que sigue es la introducción que corresponde a la 11ava actualización de la nota "Una propuesta anti-corrupción sistémica para Podemos y Ciudadanos que los Nativos Digitales no están esperando pero les encantará," que se accesa pulsando el contenido externo. La misma dice así: "Hoy mismo, Cs Profesionales retuitió "¿Deben los españoles y catalanes considerar la in(ter)dependencia bit.ly/574GMH de @gmh_upsa?" Sin embargo, quedan todavía dudas si ellos han profundizado en el significado de las selectas colaboraciones de calidad en que descansan los enlaces "bit.ly" de dichos tuits o si por el contrario lo han considerado simplemente como colaboraciones de cantidad, como son la gran mayoría de tuits sin trascendencia que inundan a Twitter."</div>
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¿Deben los españoles y catalanes considerar la in(ter)dependencia <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/574GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/lceOlhv4ph" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/574GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/574GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a> de <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="4357271" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/gmh_upsa" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">gmh_upsa</span></a>? <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="1517142798" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/ERMNoticias" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">ERMNoticias</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="7996082" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/el_pais" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">el_pais</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a></div>
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¿Apoyan los retuits de <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="232318116" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/CsProfesionales" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">CsProfesionales</span></a> la in(ter)dependencia España-Cataluña de <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="4357271" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/gmh_upsa" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">gmh_upsa</span></a> <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/818GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/5NWfO97CjP" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/818GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/818GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a>? <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="108994652" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/Albert_Rivera" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">Albert_Rivera</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a></div>
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Parte 1 de 2. Sugiero reajustar la idea “la política no espante el desarrollo económico” con “la democracia representativa sea desinflada para que no espante el desarrollo económico, social y cultural.” En tal sentido, a primera vista, parece interesante la sugerencia de Espadaler que "ha propuesto bonificaciones fiscales del 100% para las empresas que compren equipos de I+D+i." Sin embargo, como se sustenta en la escalabilidad de la eficiencia, que es perjudicial en momento de un cambio de civilización, sugiero que los emprendedores puedan acelerar su capacidad y experiencia basadas en la escalabilidad del aprendizaje, como lo sugiere John Hagel de Deloitte.</div>
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Quedarse fuera de la Unión Europea es el resultado de que se diseñó para unir países independientes, cuando debió ser para unir países interdependientes en un mundo cada vez más interdependiente. Es decir que la Unión Europea necesita ser rediseñada para volverse una unión de países interdependientes. En ese sentido España y Cataluña tienen todo el potencial de dar el ejemplo a la Unión Europea. El soporte lo pueden encontrar en la nota "La In(ter)dependencia responde a lo que le preocupa a la gente ( <a href="http://bit.ly/574GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/574GMH">http://bit.ly/574GMH</a> )," la cual tiene ya 3 actualizaciones: 1. La independencia divide al empresariado catalán; 2. ¿Deben los españoles y catalanes considerar la in(ter)dependencia de @gmh_upsa?; y 3. ¿Quieren los emprendedores catalanes y dominicanos cumplir el rol de creación de riqueza a favor de su país?</div>
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Las cosas parece que están llegando a donde deben ir. Con relación a la actualización "¿Deben los españoles y catalanes considerar la in(ter)dependencia de @gmh_upsa?" que mencioné en mi primer comentario, sostuve dos intercambios de tuits con sendos colaboradores y los integré con mi primer comentario debajo de este análisis para producir la tercera actualización "Síntesis: ¿Quieren los emprendedores catalanes y dominicanos cumplir el rol de creación de riqueza a favor de su país? de la referida nota "La In(ter)dependencia responde a lo que le preocupa a la gente ( <a href="http://bit.ly/574GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/574GMH">http://bit.ly/574GMH</a> )."</div>
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Yo pensaba que este comentario podía haber llegado muy tarde. Sin embargo, está llegando al inicio de la campaña electoral de España. La democracia representativa es un paradigma que se vendió muy bien como la alternativa al paradigma de la dictadura que llegó después de las luchas por la independencia. Sin embargo, en la medida en que ha pasado el tiempo la diferencia entre esos dos paradigmas se ha hecho cada vez más pequeña, sin ninguna distinción de los gobiernos de derecha o de izquierda. Pero en el mundo ha venido penetrando una nueva civilización que vengo llamando sistémica, que trae consigo un nuevo paradigma basado en que la independencia es reemplazada por la interdependencia. Para más detalles hoy elaboré la 2da actualización de la nota "La In(ter)dependencia responde a lo que le preocupa a la gente ( <a href="http://bit.ly/574GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/574GMH">http://bit.ly/574GMH</a> )," de octubre del 2014, cuyo titular es "¿Deben los españoles y catalanes considerar la in(ter)dependencia de @gmh_upsa?" Dándome por favor el beneficio de la duda, lean esta colaboración que pretende ser de calidad y digan que les parece. ¡Gracias!</div>
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Lo que aparece en el contenido externo es una conversación de tuits que da acceso a la "Segunda actualización. ¿Deben los españoles y catalanes considerar la in(ter)dependencia de @gmh_upsa?," de la nota "La In(ter)dependencia responde a lo que le preocupa a la gente," cuya introducción dice lo siguiente: "Debajo de la noticia “Mas llama al independentismo a transformar la movilización en votos,” escrita para El País por Miquel Nouger, coloqué tres comentarios, dos de los cuales respondieron a comentarios de otros colaboradores, sin recibir respuesta hasta este momento."</div>
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En adición a mis dos primeros comentarios a favor de la in(ter)dependencia (y por supuesto en contra de la independencia), acudí a la cita de Unamuno en la nota "¿Querrán las autoridades del status quo vencer sin poder convencer a los demás en el Pacto Eléctrico? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/694GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/694GMH">http://bit.ly/694GMH</a> )." Voy reinterpretar parte de lo que dije para que aplique a la situación de ustedes: Al nivel esencial del 27-S, que está por encima de la política y el dinero, solo hay dos posiciones disponibles: 1) Independencia: quedarnos en la Zona de Comodidad junto a la personalidades del status quo o 2) In(ter)dependencia: ir juntos los demás a Donde Sucede la Magia. Ellos podrán vencernos, pero no podrán convencernos."</div>
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¿Se basará esa posición ideológica de independencia en que Cataluña no pueden pedirle peras al olmo de España? En mi primer comentario doy una respuesta que se sustenta en que Cataluña tiene las mejores condiciones para ofrecerle a todos los españoles los beneficios de la in(ter)dependencia, la cual está basada en la nota "¿Sembró el 15-M el peral? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/48UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/48UPSA">http://bit.ly/48UPSA</a> )," que en este momento cuenta con su primera actualización "El pensamiento para que América Latina empiece a ascender al primer mundo está disponible en el Pacto Eléctrico."</div>
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España tiene las mejores condiciones para dar un salto a la in(ter)dependencia que es lo que le debe seguir a la solidificación del movimiento fluido de masas que significo el 15-M, al cual le faltó pensamiento. Ese pensamiento sólido que está emergiendo en la República Dominicana se sustenta en el descubrimiento de que la democracia representativa con la que redistribución de riqueza se ha expandido en exceso y se ha convertido en una burbuja que está a punto de explotar. Esa burbuja se debe a un gran desequilibrio entre el Estado y el mercado, donde este último pasa de ser mediocre e injusto con regulaciones del Estado a ser sobresaliente y justo con mucho menos regulaciones de control de precios. Es así como la clase media en general y los emprendedores en particular de Cataluña pueden pasar a cumplir su mejor rol con la creación de riqueza a favor de España en la primera Edad Dorada de lo que he venido llamando la civilización sistémica. El acceso a la colaboración de calidad sobre el pensamiento sólido aparece en la conversación de tuit del contenido externo.</div>
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"... el candidato antisistema." Bien: se necesita hacer lo que nunca se ha hecho para cambiar el sistema de forma radical como paso con el protestantismo. "Eso me lleva a comprometerme y a tratar de no defraudar a esos votantes." Bien: nada que agregar. “Yo quisiera que el movimiento se mantuviera, que participase en política y que nos acompañase en el próximo Gobierno.” Mal: el cambio del sistema es para impulsar la creación de riqueza en el mercado. "Me siento administrador." Mal: lo que hace falta es un servidor-líder. "Replantear el presupuesto nacional para orientarlo a la salud, educación y desarrollo económico." Mal: estaría mejorando lo que está mal para seguir aumentando el desequilibrio Estado mercado, con la burbuja de la democracia representativa que acabará por explotar. Para entender mejor las calificaciones de Bien y Mal, son el resultado sintético de aplicar la "Primera actualización. El pensamiento para que América Latina empiece a ascender al primer mundo está disponible en el Pacto Eléctrico," de la nota "¿Sembró el 15-M el peral? (<a href="http://bit.ly/48UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/48UPSA">http://bit.ly/48UPSA</a> )."</div>
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Amparado en lo que ha venido emergiendo en la cuenta de Twitter @gmh_upsa, la imposibilidad de la "Honestidad y transparencia en la gestión de los bienes públicos," puede que ya no sea lo que queremos. Entiendo que "lo demás ya iremos viendo" con el desarrollo de lo que he venido sugiriendo como la democracia directa en la referida cuenta de Twitter. Al respecto, sugiero que considere mis tres comentarios anteriores, que compaginan con “Nos han querido encuadrar como post-indignados 15-M. Pero cada país tiene sus características. Aquí fue la corrupción, en España la crisis. Nosotros hemos tratado de ser lo más abiertos posibles, que nuestras demandas no vengan predeterminadas por la ideología”, explica Álvaro Montenegro." El encuadre no está equivocado en Guatemala, sino en España y Grecia, que han querido mantenerse dentro de las ideologías, cuando lo que el 15-M y el 25-A deben impulsar es un Estado minimalista que impulsa la democracia directa como sugerí en mi comentario anterior.</div>
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En mi primer comentario doy indicios que dicha "Primavera Latinoamericana," puede empezar con el Pacto Eléctrico de la República Dominicana que le agrega pensamiento a los movimientos de los indignados de todo el mundo, independiente de la ideología, como adelanté en la nota "Pensamiento para los indignados de Clase Media: Un Estado minimalista que impulsa la democracia directa ( <a href="http://bit.ly/20UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/20UPSA">http://bit.ly/20UPSA</a>)." Una advertencia es que para poder aprovechar lo que sugiero es imprescindible leer esa nota, y la que aparece en el primer comentario, que pretenden ser colaboraciones de calidad, contraria a las colaboraciones de cantidad a las que induce este medio de comentarios.</div>
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¿No será que has interpretado mal el rol de la sociedad civil? Mi humilde interpretación es que la sociedad civil es muchas veces capturada por la democracia representativa. ¿Era Mendizábal era parte de la sociedad civil? En adición a mi primer comentario digo lo siguiente sobre la " trama de fraude aduanero que dirigía el secretario privado de la vicepresidenta, Juan Carlos Monzón, más conocido como El Robacarros por sus antecedentes como ladrón de coches," que vivió Lucía Mendizábal es un síntoma de corrupción típico de lo que viene sucediendo el nuestros países latinos (como los de cultura ibérica) desde tiempos remotos. La diferencia con la situación al final de la civilización industrial es que esos síntomas han sido apalancados negativamente por la corrupción sistémica internacional del statu quo que pretende seguir extendiendo la civilización industrial en tiempos en que una nueva civilización, que vengo llamando civilización sistémica, le permite a la gente de a pie manifestarse por medio de las redes sociales, cuando la vigilancia del statu quo no entiende lo que está pasando.</div>
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En respuesta a “A los independentistas solo les podemos ganar ofreciendo un proyecto mejor. No basta con decir que no,” le sugiero que pongan atención al proyecto mucho mejor que aparece en la nota "¿Podrán los líderes catalanes y españoles encontrar su in(ter)dependencia en colaboraciones de calidad? (<a href="http://bit.ly/UP52SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP52SA">http://bit.ly/UP52SA</a> ), cuya primera actualización es "¿Deben las autonomías seguir a Cataluña para dialogar más allá de la independencia a la in(ter)dependencia?"</div>
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Luego de 13 minutos más, ahora suman más de 1538 comentarios en este pajal donde coloco esta tercera aguja tan difícil de encontrar. Esa nueva civilización de la Tercera Ola que puede resolver los difíciles problema de la vieja es lo que vengo llamando la civilización sistémica, con notas elaboradas en el "Blog Grupo Millennium Hispaniola ( <a href="http://cort.as/5ZtU" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://cort.as/5ZtU">http://cort.as/5ZtU</a> )," que he venido clavando con tuits en la cuenta @gmh_upsa de Twitter. Sobre el referéndum que sugiere el escritor Antonio Muñoz Molina, estoy agregando la opción de la in(ter)dependencia con la nota "¿Podrán los líderes catalanes y españoles encontrar su in(ter)dependencia en colaboraciones de calidad? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/UP52SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP52SA">http://bit.ly/UP52SA</a> )" al agregarle la primera actualización " ¿Deben las autonomías seguir a Cataluña para ir más allá de la independencia a la in(ter)dependencia?" Concuerdo con el actor catalán Sergi López en que "Esta es una revuelta popular y para mí es una gran oportunidad para cambiar cosas de forma profunda en Cataluña y en España". Al pensador José Luis Pardo le doy otra tercera vía en la referida primera actualización.</div>
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Luego de 14 minutos, ahora son más de 1493 (al empezar). Primero quiero traer la pregunta sobre si es posible colocarse por encima de "La cultura, ante el secesionismo." Alvin Toffler lo hizo en su libro "La Tercera Ola," al describir la arquitectura de la civilización industrial, cuando dijo: “… vemos aquí esbozadas las estructuras comunes de todas las naciones de la Segunda Ola, con independencia de sus diferencias culturales o climáticas, con independencia de su herencia étnica y religiosa, con independencia de que se autotitulen Capitalistas o Comunistas... Estas estructuras paralelas, tan fundamentales en la ex Unión Soviética y Hungría como en Alemania, Francia o Canadá, fijaron los límites dentro de los que se expresaban las diferencias políticas, sociales y culturales. Surgieron por todas partes sólo después de encarnizadas batallas políticas, culturales y económicas entre quienes intentaban preservar las estructuras de la Primera Ola y los que comprendían que sólo una nueva Civilización podría resolver los difíciles problemas de la vieja.”</div>
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He llegado aquí con 1410 comentarios sin leerlos. De la noticia entresaque lo siguiente: (1) escritor Antonio Muñoz Molina dijo que "... me parece urgente ponerse de acuerdo en un referéndum con una pregunta clara, con pleno acuerdo también de los pasos siguientes según cada resultado, y con un máximo de neutralidad en los medios públicos o subvencionados, y pleno acceso a ellos de todas las opciones". (2) ... el actor catalán Sergi López (Vilanova i la Geltrú, Barcelona, 1965), aunque con mucha más temperatura verbal e ideológica: "Esta es una revuelta popular y para mí es una gran oportunidad para cambiar cosas de forma profunda en Cataluña y en España". Y (3) ...el pensador José Luis Pardo lo explica así, realmente contrariado: "Lo que se ha conseguido en Cataluña es prodigioso: el discurso político se ha empobrecido hasta tal punto que la única discusión es acerca de si uno está a favor o en contra de una cosa que es imposible (la independencia), de otra que es indeseable (la dictadura del proletariado) o de una tercera que está perfectamente indefinida (el misterioso Estado Federal)".</div>
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Excelente comentario que entiendo no es factible responder eficazmente con una colaboración de cantidad empleando el pensamiento cartesiano. La misma requiere una colaboración de calidad, que se ampara en el pensamiento sistémico. Por eso, ampliando la colaboración de calidad que le sugerí considerar a @vincennes (vincennes isabe), he integrado mis comentarios a la (otra vez esta misma) nota "¿Podrán los líderes catalanes y españoles encontrar su in(ter)dependencia en colaboraciones de calidad? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/UP52SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP52SA">http://bit.ly/UP52SA</a> )" al agregarle la (esta) primera actualización " ¿Deben las autonomías seguir a Cataluña para ir más allá de la independencia a la in(ter)dependencia?" Superada la tercera vía de la "España Federal" o "Federal asimétrica," con la tercera vía de la in(ter)dependencia, esa pregunta reinterpreta la pregunta cartesiana de @ddgg (David Gomez): ¿Qué cambiaría respecto a las autonomías que tenemos? y le agrega uno de los elementos más importantes el cuestionamiento de la mencionada nota a "la legalidad democrática." Por lo anterior, considero superado lo que afirma Sebastián Carmona.</div>
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Mira por favor la conversación de tuits del contenido externo y veras como sugiero que desaparece el desencuentro. Aunque veras solo dos tuits de septiembre 16 y de hoy septiembre 23, hay dos más anteriores de septiembre 12, con una noticia y la colaboración de caalidad "¿Deben los españoles y catalanes considerar la in(ter)dependencia <a href="http://bit.ly/574GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/574GMH">http://bit.ly/574GMH</a> de @gmh_upsa?," así como 4 posteriores. Para llegar a ellos pulsa por favor en el espacio en blanco.</div>
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¿Podrán los líderes catalanes y españoles encontrar su in(ter)dependencia en colaboraciones de calidad? <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/UP52SA" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="http://t.co/YABCj8mFeA" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP52SA"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/UP52SA<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a><a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a></div>
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¿Es el Estado federal una instancia de la democracia representativa que está sobre expandida? ¿No será traumático para la democracia representativa quedarse sentados, como en el Titanic a punto de hundirse, arreglando las sillas de cubierta? Mira por favor el comentario que le hice a @ddgg (David Gomez), que tiene la nota "¿Podrán los líderes catalanes y españoles encontrar su in(ter)dependencia en colaboraciones de calidad? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/UP52SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP52SA">http://bit.ly/UP52SA</a> )," la que sugiere una gran diferencia entre las colaboraciones de cantidad y las de calidad, así como la llegada de la democracia directa de @gmh_upsa.</div>
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Estoy en desacuerdo en que "No hay nada que negociar..." Sin importar cuál sea el resultado de la contienda electoral, lo mejor que podrán hacer los españoles es lo que sugerí en mi primer comentario en respuesta a la pregunta de @ddgg (David Gomez) ¿Y qué reforma de la Constitución propone Felipe González?</div>
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La reforma de la Constitución de los países del mundo que se basan en la muy vieja Declaración de Independencia, necesitan aspirar a pasar de la civilización industrial a la civilización que vengo llamando sistémica, puede muy bien empezar en España con una Declaración de In(ter)independencia. Cuando defiende que las “revoluciones” que acarrean “70 años de miseria,” todas las referencias del expresidente de gobierno Felipe González apuntan a que sólo se puede aprender del pasado. Pero resulta que desde las últimas décadas el mundo cambió muchísimo y la diferencia entre democracia representativa y la dictadura es cada vez más pequeña, cuando ahora entendemos que se puede aprender también del futuro emergente. En este otro sentido, sugiero que la gente le solicite a los aspirantes a ser líderes de Cataluña, de España y de la Unión Europea, que por favor se pronuncien sobre el contenido de la nota "¿Podrán los líderes catalanes y españoles encontrar su in(ter)dependencia en colaboraciones de calidad? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/UP52SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP52SA">http://bit.ly/UP52SA</a> )," que es algo que la gente no está esperando pero le encantará.</div>
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Que interesante que dices que "No hay nadie de nivel para debatir." En vez de debatir, te invito a impulsar el diálogo generativo que aparece debajo de la noticia "Hacienda replica a Mas que impagar la deuda se volvería contra Cataluña ( <a href="http://cort.as/XSZQ" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://cort.as/XSZQ">http://cort.as/XSZQ</a> )."</div>
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Dándole las gracias a Joanot Martorell (@joanot_martorell), a Tales de Mileto (@talesdmileto), a Juan Porzio (@unobservador), a Hereje ConVicto (@magneto) y a aliosha fomich (@13aliosha_fomich), los invito a continuar el diálogo generativo que impulsé aquí y que entresaqué, como agujas en un panal de los 2,100 comentarios anteriores, al elaborar la nota “¿Podrán los líderes catalanes y españoles encontrar su in(ter)dependencia en colaboraciones de calidad? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/UP52SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP52SA">http://bit.ly/UP52SA</a> )." Al respecto, sugiero encarecidamente que colaboren a disolver el debate debajo de la noticia "Hacienda replica a Mas que impagar la deuda se volvería contra Cataluña ( <a href="http://cort.as/XSZQ" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://cort.as/XSZQ">http://cort.as/XSZQ</a> )."</div>
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¿Reflejan esos dimes y diretes que están escalando el debate la falta de liderazgo no solo de los que administran a Cataluña, sino también a España y los demás países independientes que conforman la Unión Europea? ¿Por qué no cambian del debate al diálogo generativo con el propósito de considerar la in(ter)dependencia? Solo amparado en el mantenimiento de la cuestionable legalidad que impera en España y en la Unión Europea, el gobernador del Banco de España, Luis Linde, y el presidente de la Generalitat, Artur Mas, están escalando el conflicto. Tratando de disolver dicho conflicto, sugiero que los lectores consideren la nota "¿Podrán los líderes catalanes y españoles encontrar su in(ter)dependencia en colaboraciones de calidad? (<a href="http://bit.ly/UP52SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP52SA">http://bit.ly/UP52SA</a> )." Como sucede con noticias con miles de comentarios, he venido diciendo que su gran mayoría son colaboraciones de cantidad que son emocionales, sugiriendo que muy pocos pueden ser colaboraciones de calidad que traen vía enlaces externos la clase de pensamiento que Bauman describió en la noticia de El País “El 15-M es emocional, le falta pensamiento.”</div>
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Muchas gracias por sus dos comentarios que desde luego respeto. Su apoyo filosófico por la ECCP ha llevado a España, a República Dominicana, a Grecia, a Puerto Rico, a Chile y a muchos otros países a privatizar las ganancias a favor de la democracia representativa y a socializar las pérdidas a la gente de a pie. Por el contrario, la ECVA impulsa una desregulación sin privatización. La diferencia está en que la cultura latina imperante genera comportamientos indeseables por parte de la democracia representativa de derecha, del centro y de izquierda, dentro de un proceso de transición. La transformación que sugiere la ECVA induce el cambio cultural que la gente no está esperando, pero le encantará. Es así como, por ejemplo, puede servir a los catalanes para que pasen a la democracia directa y a muchos países en otros sectores donde mejor convenga, como parte del cambio a la civilización sistémica. Reitero las gracias por su amable atención.</div>
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Gracias por la espera que se debe al ejemplo “gano-ganas” que por otra razón acabo de elaborar. Como puedes leer en mi último comentario a Tales de Mileto, el mundo está envuelto en un cambio de civilización similar al que ocurrió hace como 500 años. En casos como ese, cobra mucha importancia la cita de Henry Ford, quien dijo, en medio de tiempos muy cambiantes como los que vivimos ahora, que si le hubiese preguntado a la gente que quería, ellos hubiesen dicho, caballos más rápidos. Para definir "gano-ganas," sugiero que veas lo que sugiero es el primer ejemplo de la democracia directa en la colaboración de calidad "Eje Electricidad Competitividad Sistémica ( <a href="http://bit.ly/UP47SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP47SA">http://bit.ly/UP47SA</a> )," la cual tiene su "Primera actualización. ¿Quisieras asumir los riesgos de un mercado spot competitivo que podría aumentar tu poder adquisitivo?"</div>
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Gracias por responder de nuevo. Considere por favor lo que sugiero desde el pensamiento sistémico, en que la causa y el efecto están alejados en el tiempo y el espacio. La UE se formó con la unión de países independientes, pero en las últimas décadas nos llegó, lo que Peter Drucker identificó como la 4ta revolución de la información, que tuvo como precedente la 3ra revolución de la información que ocurrió hace como 500 años. Eso significa que la UE necesita reorganizarse para volverse la unión de países interdependientes. España tiene la oportunidad de servir de ejemplo a la UE y una relación interdependiente con Cataluña podría ser el primer paso a dar en ese sentido. Aunque no parece haber tiempo para digerir eso antes del 27S, existe la posibilidad de que haya tiempo suficiente antes de las elecciones generales. Lo que falta es que emerja un estadista de Estado minimalista que impulse la democracia directa en la "civilización sistémica, donde con el gano-ganas todos deben tener la oportunidad de ganar con países interdependientes," como dije en mi comentario anterior a otra persona.</div>
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Parece que no cayó bien mi sugerencia por acercarlos. Es así como funciona la civilización industrial con un gano-pierdes con países independientes, como lo quiere hacer Mas llamando a observadores. No así en lo que vengo llamando la civilización sistémica, donde con el gano-ganas todos deben tener la oportunidad de ganar con países interdependientes.</div>
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Respeto mucho su opinión y por eso no tengo nada que perdonar. Ahora bien, creo merecer el mismo respecto y opino que usted tendría toda la razón, si estuviésemos todavía en el mundo Cartesiano de los entes independientes. Si examina todos mis comentarios bajo esta noticia, la sugerencia de cambiar de países independientes a in(ter) dependientes que sostengo, resulta que en este mundo en que prácticamente todo es interdependiente. Es así como en lo que dice el artículo en su mismo inicio "La Generalitat quiere que las elecciones del próximo día 27 tengan la máxima repercusión internacional," no nacional, lo que entiendo avala que la ley cuestione si en España se está en medio de corrupción sistémica no solo local sino internacional, como aparece en la nota que le sugerí leer. Lo que si debo admitir es lo que dije "Acabo de colocar un ejemplo en respuesta a Tales de Mileto que a lo mejor puede ayudarlos a entenderse, por lo menos en lo que se refiere a la corrupción sistémica," puede que no haya sido apropiado.</div>
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Acabo de colocar un ejemplo en respuesta a Tales de Mileto que a lo mejor puede ayudarlos a entenderse, por lo menos en lo que se refiere a la corrupción sistémica.</div>
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Gracias por su atenta respuesta a mi comentario. Contrario a otros países donde la justicia no funciona bien, España parece ser un excelente país al respecto. Entiendo que el ejemplo que sigue es del mismo y no otro problema. Sin pretender de ningún modo que sugiero que se violen las leyes, en la democracia representativa entiendo ha emergido la corrupción sistémica, como la describo en la nota "¿Estará la corrupción sistémica llevando la Eurozona a la Segunda Edad Media? (<a href="http://bit.ly/486GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/486GMH">http://bit.ly/486GMH</a> )." Si estoy en lo cierto, entonces ¿no sería usted partidario de que esas leyes aparentemente “democráticas y derechos de los demás en una democracia representativa” necesitarían pasarse a manos de la justicia lo más pronto posible?</div>
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¡Hermano! Gracias por lo de hermano! No me merezco la comparación que haces con Heidegger y Joyce juntos. Ellos hicieron colaboraciones de calidad sólidas, mientras yo las hago líquidas para socializarlas con el propósito de evitar el debate en que el statu quo siempre gana para seguir llevándonos hacia la 2da Edad Media. En cambio, vengo sugiriendo el dialogo generativo. En ese sentido, tu reinterpretación de lo esencial contribuye a ayudar a solidificar lo que pretendo es una colaboración líquida. Adelanto que por donde voy hay un problema grande de comportamiento cultural latino en Europa y en América Latina, que puede impedir lo que vengo sugiriendo. Al respecto, sugiero que aportes al diálogo generativo queimpulsa la 1ra actualización de la nota "¿Sembró el 15-M el peral? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/48UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/48UPSA">http://bit.ly/48UPSA</a> )," que trata sobre "El pensamiento para que América Latina empiece a ascender al primer mundo está disponible en el Pacto Eléctrico." Por supuesto, puede que a ustedes les venga como anillo al dedo esa clase de pensamiento líquido en las elecciones generales de España.</div>
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Excelente comentario. ¿Cómo pueden despegar los países desarrollados si no despegan las clases media de los países en desarrollo? Los planes de recuperación de la economía mundial necesitan considerar "la importancia de que los países de ingreso medio avancen en los objetivos de erradicar la pobreza extrema para el año 2030 y fomentar la prosperidad compartida," como dijo Jim Jong Kim, el presente del Grupo Banco Mundial en el artículo "Rumbo a Lima," que le publicó El País en abril de este año. Al respecto, encontré que la estrategia que Kim sugiere está destinada a fallar y lo documenté en la tercera actualización de la nota "Can we agree with the Second Curve, while not with Handy? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/UP86SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP86SA">http://bit.ly/UP86SA</a> )," cuyo título es "Early harvest 2015 Lima Annual Meetings: Electricity Pact strategy of trajectory," algo así como "Cosecha temprana de las reuniones anuales de Lima 2015: estrategia de trayectoria para el Pacto Eléctrico."</div>
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Sr. Calvo: ponga atención por favor a esto y evite suposiciones defectuosas que lo llevan a decir que "el régimen democrático español ha entrado en una crisis sin posible salida aparente: ¿y si no es el régimen democrático el que ha entrado en crisis? ¿Y si siguiendo el axioma, "mientras más sistémico, más local," España es uno de muchos países donde la crisis de la democracia representativa es más sistémica? Con mucho análisis ha llegado a una mejor conclusión (por aquello de "salida aparente") que la que recopilé en la nota "Carlos Alberto y Guillermo: la llave de la caja de pandora catalana ( <a href="http://bit.ly/UP68SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP68SA">http://bit.ly/UP68SA</a> )," cuya introducción dice: -- Al otro día de las elecciones parlamentarias en Cataluña, el 28 de septiembre de 2015, la primera pregunta que le hizo Guillermo Arduino a Carlos Alberto Montaner, al entrevistarlo en el programa Encuentro de CNN, fue:¿qué significa esto para esos aires independentistas? A lo que Montaner le respondió “… yo creo gravísimo lo que está sucediendo porque no hay una solución...” La llave de la caja de pandora es la salida.</div>
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"El secretariado nacional de la CUP, formado por 15 personas, desarrollará este lunes el documento con la posición unánime de la izquierda independentista, tras haber escuchado a su militancia, y lo hará público el día 8 en una conferencia política." Si escucharon a su militancia no cabe ninguna duda que se equivocarán. Lo que sigue va para todos los partidos sin excepción. Si escuchan a su militancia se equivocarán por lo que dijo Henry Ford en momento de grandes cambios en que se necesita ofrecerle a la militancia algo que no están esperando pero les encantará. Ford dijo en aquel momento algo como si le hubiera preguntado a la gente que querían, le hubiesen dicho caballos más rápidos. Los españoles y los europeos necesitan una innovación institucional, que corresponde a una nueva constitución, acorde con una civilización que satisfaga las aspiraciones emocionales líquidas del 15-M que ya se sabe cómo se pueden solidificar agregando conocimiento. Esto es algo muy serio, así que, por favor, no respondan con "La gallina?"</div>
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Vengo estudiando este problema a nivel internacional y contrario a aprender del pasado, como la historia, vengo aprendiendo del futuro emergente. Es así como llegué a la conclusión que la democracia representativa se saturó al igual que la civilización mecánica (es la primera vez que lo escribo) que empiezó en el renacimiento y quiere seguir su existencia sin dejar que tome fuerza la civilización que vengo llamando sistémica, que es la que la gente del 15-M vislumbró como algo natural que sugieren las redes sociales. Repito aquí un ejemplo de lo que vengo comentando en noticias de El País. La introducción de la nota "Carlos Alberto y Guillermo: la llave de la caja de pandora catalana ( <a href="http://bit.ly/UP68SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP68SA">http://bit.ly/UP68SA</a> )," dice: -- Al otro día de las elecciones parlamentarias en Cataluña, el 28 de septiembre de 2015, la primera pregunta que le hizo Guillermo Arduino a Carlos Alberto Montaner, al entrevistarlo en el programa Encuentro de CNN, fue:¿qué significa esto para esos aires independentistas? A lo que Montaner le respondió “… yo creo gravísimo lo que está sucediendo porque no hay una solución...”</div>
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Lo que digo es muy en serio. La introduccón de la nota "Carlos Alberto y Guillermo: la llave de la caja de pandora catalana ( <a href="http://bit.ly/UP68SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP68SA">http://bit.ly/UP68SA</a> )," dice: -- Al otro día de las elecciones parlamentarias en Cataluña, el 28 de septiembre de 2015, la primera pregunta que le hizo Guillermo Arduino a Carlos Alberto Montaner, al entrevistarlo en el programa Encuentro de CNN, fue:¿qué significa esto para esos aires independentistas? A lo que Montaner le respondió “… yo creo gravísimo lo que está sucediendo porque no hay una solución...”</div>
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¿Y si no es lógico? Como vengo propugnando la idea de la in(ter)dependencia a los partidos que dicen seguir el 15-M, el plazo más largo le conviene a España, a la Unión Europea y a todos los países independientes. Como pueden ver en el contenido externo que lleva a una “conversación” (una secuencia de tuits) en Twitter, ya la cuenta no oficial de profesionales simpatizantes con el partido político progresista ciudadanos se adelantó a otros partidos al darle retuit a uno de mis tuits que, por ejemplo, sugiere "la llave de la caja de pandora catalana" que Carlos Alberto Montaner no sabía que existía en una entrevista en CNN. Como pueden ver en las colaboraciones de calidad a las que llevan los híperenlaces “bit.ly” de esos tuis, España tiene la grandísima oportunidad de ser el lugar donde se implante la primera declaración de in(ter)dependencia. Los tiempos de declaraciones de independencia fueron hace más de 200 años, en los albores de la civilización industrial. Nosotros estamos ahora en los albores de la Tercera Ola de Alvin Toffler, que vengo llamando la civilización sistémica.</div>
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Ese es un análisis de causas y efectos muy interesante. Mi compresión de neoliberalismo es una combinación dual que se refuerza mutuamente: 1) sin la primera "e:" noliberalismo y 2) neofeudalismo, está basada en el pensamiento sistémico, en que la causa y el efecto están alejados en el tiempo y el espacio. Entre las dos cambiaron el sentido de la desregulación que necesita el mundo para impulsar la privatización de las ganancias para la democracia representativa (por ejemplo, con puertas giratorias de los despachos de gobierno a los consejos de dirección de las empresas privadas) y la socialización de las pérdidas a la gente de a pie. Bueno, puedes seguir este cuento en mi comentario anterior cuya escena ofrece la llave a la caja de pandora que mucha gente inteligente e importante, como Carlos Alberto Montaner, creen que dicha llave no existe.</div>
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¿Cómo le irá a las fuerzas que mejor puedan sacar partido de la desaparición de "la gran polarización que ha provocado en el electorado catalán la cuestión independentista," que menciona Oriol en esta noticia? Vean por favor el resumen del cuento que sugiere socializar ampliamente el contenido externo antes de que sea tarde. Carlos Alberto Montaner le dijo a Guillermo Arduino en el programa Encuentro de CNN que cree que esos aires independentistas catalanes son gravísimos y está sucediendo porque no hay una solución. Peor aún, si en Francia, Italia y otros lugares pueden querer hacer lo mismo, y concluyó con: “abrir esa caja de pandora es demasiado peligroso para toda Europa."</div>
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Usando mis comentarios debajo de esta noticia, redacte la nota "Carlos Alberto y Guillermo: la llave de la caja de pandora catalana ( <a href="http://bit.ly/UP68SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP68SA">http://bit.ly/UP68SA</a> )," cuya introducción dice: "Al otro día de las elecciones parlamentarias en Cataluña, el 28 de septiembre de 2015, la primera pregunta que le hizo Guillermo Arduino a Carlos Alberto Montaner, al entrevistarlo en el programa Encuentro de CNN, fue:¿qué significa esto para esos aires independentistas? A lo que Montaner le respondió '… yo creo gravísimo lo que está sucediendo porque no hay una solución...'"</div>
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Ciertamente lo planteado es incoherente. El desequilibrio entre la creación y la redistribución de la riqueza debe ser el centro del diálogo que necesita ser generativo. Un diálogo generativo concentra su atención en la creación de riqueza primero y la redistribución después, porque es la única forma de que los países sean sostenibles. Esa es la base de la las dos colaboraciones de calidad que mencioné en m primer comentario, donde hice énfasis en que Cataluña y España deben ir más allá de la independencia a la in(ter)dependencia, así como ser capaces de impulsar la igualdad de oportunidades para crear la referida riqueza.</div>
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La experiencia no se improvisa. Todo indica que lo más democrático es 'la elaboración de un proyecto de texto constitucional en el plazo aproximado de 10 meses, mediante un mecanismo participativo.'" Sería lo más democrático si el mundo no hubiese cambiado tanto, siendo una continuación del pasado y de lo que se tratara es de una transición. Pues no lo es. Se trata de la mayor oportunidad para desarrollar una transformación en Cataluña, España, la Unión Europea y el mundo de los países independientes que aspiren a volverse in(ter)dependientes. Vean por favor dos notas que se refuerzan mutuamente: (1) "¿Podrán los líderes catalanes y españoles encontrar su in(ter)dependencia en colaboraciones de calidad? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/UP52SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP52SA">http://bit.ly/UP52SA</a>)," la cual tiene 2 actualizaciones; y (2) "¿Sembró el 15-M el peral? (<a href="http://bit.ly/48UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/48UPSA">http://bit.ly/48UPSA</a> )," cuya 2da actualización es " Acompáñame a creer qué los gobiernos pueden ser capaces de impulsar la igualdad de oportunidades." Dicha actualización destaca la necesidad de diseñar una transformación que cambie el rumbo de la organización previo a las actividades de transición.</div>
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Tomando en cuenta los primeros 4 comentarios elaboré la Segunda actualización de la nota "¿Sembró el 15-M el peral?( <a href="http://bit.ly/48UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/48UPSA">http://bit.ly/48UPSA</a> )," cuyo título dice " Acompáñame a creer qué los gobiernos pueden ser capaces de impulsar la igualdad de oportunidades." En la introducción continua diciendo: "Tan pronto queda definida la transformación hacia un rumbo mejor, la democracia representativa es necesaria para hacer los cambios regulatorios que se requieren para ejecutar la transición de lo que sucede hoy para cambiar hacia un futuro mejor. Esa transformación requiere el mercado sobresaliente desregulado que es capaz de impulsar los ajustes que requieren la activa participación de la gente para poder resolver los problemas sistémicos. El problema es que los ajustes regulatorios son excesivamente lentos para situaciones que suceden con excesiva volatilidad y para los que la gente necesita preparase libremente con anterioridad de acuerdo a sus muy variadas posibilidades." Espero que lean esa nota que trata de ofrecer colaboraciones de calidad y coméntenla por favor.</div>
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Ahora me doy cuenta lo que más me atrajo de la notica y que luego pasé por alto en el comentario anterior. Está en la primera respuesta del ministro Cárdenas: “La palabra sería retadora. Es una economía que ha sufrido un choque fuerte por la caída de los precios del petróleo, pero que lo está asimilando y haciendo los ajustes necesarios.” Desde principio de los años 70 se sabe que con las políticas promedio de gobierno de la democracia representativa no es posible hacer los ajustes para resolver los problemas sistémicos que ha generado la civilización industrial, los cuales sólo se pueden resolver con ajustes diversos de la democracia directa del mercado en lo que vengo llamando la civilización sistémica y que Alvin Toffler dio a conocer en su libro “La Tercera Ola.” En tal sentido, vengo dando como ejemplo los cambios que hay que introducir en el Pacto Eléctrico de República Dominicana para abrir los sectores eléctricos a la innovación en el mundo.</div>
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Por su contenido emocional sugiero clasificar tu comentario como una colaboración de cantidad que es a lo que inducen estos recuadros para comentarios. Tratando de producir contenido que incluya pensamiento no me limito a dichos recuadros, pretendiendo aportar colaboraciones de calidad. En este caso empleo un contenido externo de 5 tuits, del que se ve directamente los tuits 4to y 5to. Para verlos todos en Twitter pulsa un espacio en blanco. Generalizo tu comentario como un caso típico de los países latinos, que es la razón del artículo de Andrés Oppenheimer (1er tuit), "La innovación en Latinoamérica," al que respondí (2do tuit) adaptando algo (que se ve en los tuits 4to y 5to directamente visibles del contenido externo), que le dijo Soumitra Dutta, quien ya decía que "no invertir en innovación tendría consecuencias dramáticas." No son los gobiernos que deben invertir para seguir inflando la democracia representativa y aumentando el desequilibrio Estado mercado. Esto respondí: se necesita un cambio cultural mayor que ofrece el "Pensamiento para salir del atraso."</div>
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Si pudiese valer algo ese comentario, lo mejor y positivo del mismo es "...nadie os odia, solo queremos llevarnos bien." A los que sinceramente crean eso, le sugiero considerar profundamente la nota "¿Podrán los líderes catalanes y españoles encontrar su in(ter)dependencia en colaboraciones de calidad? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/UP52SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP52SA">http://bit.ly/UP52SA</a>)." En este momento, dicha nota tiene dos actualizaciónes: (1) "¿Deben las autonomías seguir a Cataluña para dialogar más allá de la independencia a la in(ter)dependencia?" y (2) "¿Necesitan los españoles un referéndum enriquecido que estaría por encima de las finanzas, la cultura y la política?"</div>
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Uhhh! Veo que me equivoque al decir que su comentario anterior fue equilibrado. A los demás. Vean por favor la nota "¿Podrán los líderes catalanes y españoles encontrar su in(ter)dependencia en colaboraciones de calidad? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/UP52SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP52SA">http://bit.ly/UP52SA</a> )," que tiene 2 actualizaciones.</div>
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Su comentario es el más equilibrado de los primeros 30. Lo que diré es para el Lunes en adelante, con la esperanza de que todos los catalanes sigan siendo españoles. Como es muy probable que esto se convierta en un pajal de colaboraciones principalmente de cantidad, pulse el enlace correspondiente y diga que le parece después de leer la nota "¿Podrán los líderes catalanes y españoles encontrar su in(ter)dependencia en colaboraciones de calidad? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/UP52SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP52SA">http://bit.ly/UP52SA</a> )." La 2da actualización de la nota es: "¿Necesitan los españoles un referéndum enriquecido que estaría por encima de las finanzas, la cultura y la política?" y su introducción dice: “Es muy improbable que esta colaboración que pretende ser de calidad cambie los resultados de la contienda electoral a favor o en contra de la independencia de Cataluña. No obstante, esperemos a que sea probable que, independiente de esos resultados, si lo que más le conviene a los que son hoy las autonomía, que parecen no entender que deben aspirar a ser independientes como Cataluña, por que es la única forma para poder volverse in(ter)dependientes.”</div>
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<br /><div class="blogger-post-footer">GMH-UPSA</div>José Antonio Vanderhorst-Silveriohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10513152976382997401noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12912503.post-14910262039818571862017-05-25T17:08:00.001-04:002017-05-25T17:08:22.451-04:00Página 12 a_widget_eskup_gmh_upsa<div class="mensajes" id="contenedor_mensajes" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; color: #393939; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">
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Sobre la clase de reestructuración que se debe hacer, esta es una manifestación que confirma que en esencia la crisis de electricidad de los países con sistemas eléctricos reestructurados son idénticas y son el resultado de la corrupción sistémica internacional donde el FMI tiene un rol espectacular. Ver contenido externo.</div>
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España necesita un ejemplo para poder transformar su sector eléctrico de uno en que el poder lo tienen las instituciones a otro donde el poder lo tiene la gente. Al respecto, sugiero que voten en la tercera actualización de la nota "Un espejo español para el Pacto Eléctrico ( <a href="http://bit.ly/88UPSA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/88UPSA">http://bit.ly/88UPSA</a> )," donde aparece la oportunidad de votar Si o No a dos preguntas que pueden ver en la imagen fija que adjunto.</div>
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Está muy bien "trabajar conjuntamente" para lograr un nuevo modelo de Estado." Si las autonomías no son independencias, no son más que dependencias. Entonces, si las dependencias se unen para formar una España independiente, algo anda muy mal en un mundo altamente in(ter)dependiente. Hace falta la in(ter)dependencia. El problema más importante del mundo de hoy es el de la independencia. Es el que tiene Inglaterra con la Unión Europea. Es el que tiene Taiwán con China. Es el que tiene Escocia con Inglaterra. Es el que se impieza a resolver con una Declaración de Interdependencia, que a fin de cuentas necesita volverse una Declaración Global de Interdependencia.</div>
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En consonancia con el impuesto al SOL, la traducción de los dos tuits es la siguiente: 1) Grandes empresas eléctricas tratan de eliminar la energía solar. 2) No es izquierda ni derecha, eres tu y las grandes empresas con maligna y simbiótica relación con oficiales corruptos del gobierno.</div>
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Dagoberto J. Torres @DJavierTH - @gmh_upsa Giant Utilities Try to Kill Solar Power <a href="http://cort.as/Z4jD" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://cort.as/Z4jD">http://cort.as/Z4jD</a> …--- Jose A Vanderhorst S @gmh_upsa - "it’s not left-vs-right.. @DJavierTH it’s you vs giant corporations, malignant, symbiotic relationship with corrupt government officials"</div>
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Todo está relacionado. La crisis sistémica ambiental no es más que un ejemplo de las crisis que ha impulsado la civlización industrial por excesos de toda clase de naturaleza bajo la creencia de la independencia. Hace dos o tres décadas que viene creciendo una civilización donde todo está relacionado y que hace que pasemos de la independencia a la interdepedencia. Bajo la independencia "Los contextos son distintos y no es fácil hacer comparaciones," por ejemplo, entre la reunión Taiwán-China y la independencia catalana de España. Sin embargo, todos los contextos son los mismos y es fácil hacer comparaciones si cambiamos al paradigma de la interdependencia.</div>
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"Para ello la Comisión Europea —el Ejecutivo comunitario— y el Consejo Europeo —representa a los Veintiocho y tendrá la última palabra ante cualquier pacto— perfilan soluciones imaginativas." La solución imaginativa es la que vengo sugiriendo desde septiembre para Cataluña-España y que repetí ayer para Taiwán-China, debajo de la noticia "China ofrece más voz internacional a Taiwán si descarta la independencia ( <a href="http://cort.as/Z_9d" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://cort.as/Z_9d">http://cort.as/Z_9d</a> ), publicada en este mismo periodico.</div>
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Buena pregunta. Interesante contrasentido. Con mucho respeto a todos los que han comentado con colaboraciones de cantidad sobre el parecido del caso Taiwan-China con el de Cataluña-España, hace mucha falta que consideren este otro contrasentido que aparece en la nota "¿Podrán los líderes catalanes y españoles encontrar su in(ter)dependencia en colaboraciones de calidad? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/UP52SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP52SA">http://bit.ly/UP52SA</a> )." Dicha nota tiene en este momento dos actualizaciones: 1) "¿Deben las autonomías seguir a Cataluña para dialogar más allá de la independencia a la in(ter)dependencia? " y 2) "¿Necesitan los españoles un referéndum enriquecido que estaría por encima de las finanzas, la cultura y la política?" Dicha nota tiene una imagen que destaca la diferencia entre tres grados de madurez: la dependencia, la independencia y la in(ter)dependencia, que adjunté a este comentario.</div>
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España y Cataluña parece que van a perder la gran oportunidad de ser los pioneros de la in(ter)dependencia, algo que solo pueden lograr los independientes. La independencia fue algo muy valioso pero ya no tiene sentido en el mundo de hoy. Todo parece indicar que solo España debe ser independiente y que Cataluña al igual que todas las autonomías debe seguir siendo dependiente. ¿Tiene eso sentido para garantizar la unidad de España? Como pueden ver en la nota "¿Podrán los líderes catalanes y españoles encontrar su in(ter)dependencia en colaboraciones de calidad? ( bit.ly/UP52SA )," por ejemplo, en su primera actualización "¿Deben las autonomías seguir a Cataluña para dialogar más allá de la independencia a la in(ter)dependencia?" O en su segunda actualización "¿Necesitan los españoles un referéndum enriquecido que estaría por encima de las finanzas, la cultura y la política?," hace falta saber "si lo que más le conviene a los que son hoy las autonomía, que parecen no entender que deben aspirar a ser independientes como Cataluña, porque es la única forma para poder volverse in(ter)dependientes."</div>
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¿Quién dijo que el sector eléctrico está sometido a la competencia? Como no cabe en este recuadro lo que voy a decir, sugiero que leas la nota "Solicitud al CES como aspirante a ser contratado como experto independiente en el Pacto Eléctrico (<a href="http://bit.ly/UP73SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP73SA">http://bit.ly/UP73SA</a> )" y su "Primera actualización. ¿Querrá la población dominicana e internacional un Pacto Eléctrico de alta credibilidad?" Una de las citas referente al sector eléctrico español dice "... como un claro ejemplo de la privatización de las ganancias por parte de la democracia representativa. A nivel profundo, lo dicho sobre lo que sucede en el Reino Unido refuerza el caso de España, cuya mejor muestra representativa para los conocedores que participan o participaron en la Maestría de FUNGLODE, aparece en la nota Dr. Pérez-Arriaga: “Eso vendría después..."</div>
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No creo que le hace justicia a lo que sucedió "una nueva variable." En realidad lo que sucedió fue le llegada de un Cisne Negro que ha puesto de manifiesto la incapacidad de la democracia representativa y en particular de la banca multilateral, que siguen impulsando a la gran mayoría de la gente a la 2da Edad Media con la pobreza y la desigualdad. Todo lo que sucede es culpa del mercado, pero del mercado mediocre e incompleto que impide la innovación. Lo mejor que le ha sucedido al mundo es el frenazo de China que ha puesto en evidencia lo dicho anteriormente en un mundo con una civilización industrial que se ha expandido mucho más allá de lo permisible. Es en estas circunstancias que tiene mucho sentido el desarrollo de la innovación en mercados sobresalientes, como se explica en la 6ta actualización "¿Cómo podría el Pacto Eléctrico atraer emprendedores que salten a la Segunda Curva para crear riqueza mundial?" de la nota "Can we agree with the Second Curve, while not with Handy? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/UP86SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP86SA">http://bit.ly/UP86SA</a> ),"</div>
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"Pero hay que emprender las tantas veces mencionadas reformas estructurales." A seguidas aparece una tradución de la síntesis de la 4ta actualización de la nota "Can we agree with the Second Curve, while not with Handy? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/UP86SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP86SA">http://bit.ly/UP86SA</a> )," que dice "¿Vendrán las señales positivas en el bienestar y el crecimiento de la organización?" Este es un resumen del evento en vivo 2015 Lima Banco Mundial: Desigualdad, Oportunidad y Prosperidad. Mientras el Dr. Kim, el Presidente del Banco Mundial, está en lo ciertto en que "las inversiones en salud y educación tienen un impacto directo en el bienestar y el crecimiento," sabemos que son el resultado de la redistribución de la riqueza que conducen a las señales negativas mientras le roban a los pobres por falta de organización. A medida que hacemos el caso de pasar de transiciones estructurales con capital financiero a corto plazo a veces bajo las privatizaciones a transformaciones estructurales con capital productivo a largo plazo para ser capaz de crear riqueza significativa, la organización traerá señales positivas sobre el bienestar y el crecimiento."</div>
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‘Decir la verdad a la gente, anunciar los objetivos a cumplir, trazar un plan y lanzarse a cumplirlo’.” Es decir, seguir expandiendo con el Fordismo aún más la civilización industrial manteniéndose en la 1ra Curva, como se puede inferir que dicen las dos primeras oraciones del resumen del texto inicial de esta nota: "Sugiriendo seguir una estrategia de terreno el presidente Medina propuso en el CELAC construir la fábrica de América Latina y el Caribe como ya lo han hecho otras regiones. Debemos entender y aceptar que llegamos tarde para apostar en construir dicha fábrica, porque el espacio de oportunidad de reducir la pobreza y la desigualdad es muy limitado y competido." Contrario al Fordismo que se concentra en la escalabilidad de la eficiencia, el Jobsismo en medio de la transición de la 1ra y la 2da Curva se concentra en la escalabilidad del aprendizaje. Mientras el Fordismo se basa en promesas con largo retraso sistémico de la democracia representativa de que lo grande es lo mejor, el Jobsismo se basa en acciones con poco retraso sistémico de la democracia directa en la que lo pequeño es bello.</div>
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La actual desaceleración se debe a lo que dice la nota "¿Podrán Latinoamérica y el Caribe brincar fábricas con cadenas de valor que reduzcan la pobreza y la desigualdad? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/702GMH" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/702GMH">http://bit.ly/702GMH</a> )" : "...cabe examinar la noticia 'Brasil acapara la preocupación en la cumbre del Fondo Monetario,' escrita por Antonio Jiménez Barca para El País, quien dijo lo siguiente: "En el Teatro Nacional de Lima, abarrotado de gente de arriba abajo, el impulsivo periodista de la cadena estadounidense CNN Richard Qest preguntó a Joaquim Levy, ministro de Economía brasileño, sentado al lado de la presidenta del FMI, Christine Lagarde: '¿Y cómo va a salir su país de la recesión?' La respuesta… era menos importante que la pregunta misma, que el hecho de que todos, en la Reunión anual del Fondo Monetario Internacional y del Banco Mundial en la capital peruana, se estén preguntando lo mismo: ¿Qué le pasa a Brasil? ¿cómo sale de esta?" "Relegado a un recuadro al final de la noticia, Jiménez Barca agrega “…como si fuera fácil, la receta,” de Levy “para devolver la confianza a los inversores (y a los brasileños):..sigue</div>
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Buena ironía. Comprobemos esto para saber si es cierto: "...la directora gerente del Fondo, Christine Lagarde, se esforzó este jueves en matizar que el frenazo del gigante asiático como un episodio pasajero y manejable, “pequeños baches en el camino” hacia una economía más orientada al consumo." Basado en mi primer comentario, que saco de ese contexto, afirmo que: "Esa cadena de causas y efectos, que se suponen cercanos en el tiempo y el espacio, basadas en el pensamiento Cartesiano, es lo que induce las respectivas miopías que tienen el FMI, el Banco Mundial, la CEPAL y los gobiernos, tratando sin lograr hacer pronósticos confiables en un mundo altamente interdependiente en que impera la volatilidad. En efecto, resalto que ese fenomeno no es pasajero, ni tampoco manejable. Es un fenómeno que reclama liderazgo en vez de manejo, que viene sucediendo por cerca de tres décadas, como grandes problemas sistémicos que vive la humanidad, donde la causa y el efecto están alejados en el tiempo, el espacio o en ambos a la vez, requiere que acudamos al pensamiento sistémico."</div>
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Acabo de poner en circulación la primera actualización "Saltemos con el Pacto Eléctrico a la 2da Curva mundial, ahora que China frenó la 1ra," de la nota de enero del 2015 "¿Podrán Latinoamérica y el Caribe brincar fábricas con cadenas de valor que reduzcan la pobreza y la desigualdad? ( bit.ly/702GMH ). " Su introducción dice: "De nuevo seguimos conectando los puntos que solo se pueden conectar hacia atrás, como dijo Steve Jobs a los graduandos de la Universidad Stanford en el año 2005. Esta vez recalcamos lo que dice el texto inicial de esta nota que se sintetiza con 'Pongámonos de acuerdo en que este es el tema más importante de liderazgo que enfrenta la humanidad,' sobre la gran oportunidad de saltar (leapfrog en inglés) la civilización industrial en que imperó el sentido común del Fordismo (en lo adelante sin sentido común, solo Fordismo o Jobsismo), para pasar a la civilización sistémica donde ya empezó a desarrollarse el Jobsismo, como el mejor legado que Jobs nos dejó." En el contenido externo doy las gracias a periodistas de El País, CNN y al presidente de OxFam.</div>
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Martín you are right: it is the system. Como se puede ver en la nota "Can we agree with the Second Curve, while not with Handy? (<a href="http://bit.ly/UP86SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP86SA">http://bit.ly/UP86SA</a> )," hay dos estrategias (1) quedarnos en la 1ra Curva sin cambiar el sistema, como sugieren el Banco Mundial y el FMI o (2) saltar a la 2da Curva, como sugerí en mi 1er comentario, para cambiar el sistema. Como me concentré en la versión en inglés del evento, ayer cuando hice la síntesis pasé por alto lo más importante de todo y que aparece justo al principio de esta noticia: "En Latinoamérica, al ritmo en que crece la desigualdad, hay una estadística mareante: dentro de 10 años un 1% de ricos tendrá más que el 51% de todos los habitantes de este continente." Hoy ya está disponible el video <a href="http://bit.ly/EVBM01" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/EVBM01">http://bit.ly/EVBM01</a> del evento y fue cuando me percaté de su relevancia antes de ver esta noticia. En la mencionada nota pueden ver la traducción de la síntesis que respalda la 5ta actualización “¿Evitará cosecha temprana en Pacto Electrico que el 1% sea más rico que el 99%?” El 99% lo dijo también Juan Alberto Fuentes Knight.</div>
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En esta noticia Antonio Jiménez Barca hace un excelente análisis muy detallado de lo que sucedió ayer en Lima. Como se puede ver en la nota "Can we agree with the Second Curve, while not with Handy? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/UP86SA" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/UP86SA">http://bit.ly/UP86SA</a> )," laboré antes, durante y después de ese evento. Antes hice la 3ra actualización de la nota "Early harvest 2015 Lima Annual Meetings: Electricity Pact strategy of trajectory," algo así como "Cosecha temprana de las reuniones anuales de Lima 2015: estrategia de trayectoria para el Pacto Eléctrico." Durante estuve atento al evento en vivo y luego hice la 4ta actualización "Will positive signals on wellbeing and growth come from organization?” que traduje como “¿Vendrán las señales positivas en el bienestar y el crecimiento de la organización?” en la 5ta actualización “¿Evitará cosecha temprana en Pacto Electrico que el 1% sea más rico que el 99%?” que hice hoy luego de escuchar el video en español. Mi comentario sigue en respuesta a Martín Pereyra.</div>
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De nada. Lo que sucede es que es necesario un gran cambio de sistema que se centre en la creación de riqueza en el mercado impulsado por la clase media para entonces poder redistribuir los excedentes de riqueza a los más necesitados. Eso significa que hay que reducir significativamente la democracia representativa que no nos representa bien en el mundo de hoy para impulsar la democracia directa que emerge con mercados sobresalientes. Las tres notas de las 10 más populares en el Blog Grupo Millennium Hispaniola, que aparecen en su columna derecha, en este momento son (1) La In(ter)dependencia responde a lo que le preocupa a la gente; (2) Un cambio de paradigma para el Pacto Eléctrico; y (3) ¿Sembró el 15-M el peral? Ahora las mismas tienen 3, 7 y 2 actualizaciones, respectivamente.</div>
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Entonces mi comentario <b>El papa da una dura advertencia a la democracia representativa global.</b> que dice, por ejemplo, que la causa raíz es "el mal es bien, y el bien es mal," no se ve.</div>
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<b>El papa da una dura advertencia a la democracia representativa global.</b> El título de este comentario reinterpreta e integra el de esta noticia y su subtítulo, al reconocer que se trata de un problema global. Su causa raíz "el mal es bien, y el bien es mal," proviene de la obra Macbeth (que no he leído) como se desprende de la nota "¿Tendrá culpa el empresario macbethiano del trabajo podrido o ningún trabajo para los indignados? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/g445mh" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/g445mh">http://bit.ly/g445mh</a> )." Esa causa raíz es la rige a la democracia representativa y especialmente a Wall Street, como se desprende de la nota "Can a Management 2.0 update help CEOs face Pope Francis’ wealth, vanity and pride temptations? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/g462mh" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/g462mh">http://bit.ly/g462mh</a> )." Es así como el 15M, tuvo mucho sentido y todavía más Occupy Wall Street que identifico la fuente principal del problema. La esperanza que sugiere el papa solo se logrará cuando el bien sea bien y el mal mal. Para pasar a un mundo de esperanza habrá que reconocer que necesitamos crear una nueva civilización, que introduce la interdependencia, cuyas condiciones están planteadas vías esas dos notas.</div>
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El desprestigio de la democracia representativa no es una novedad: lleva mucho tiempo. La señal más evidente para los españoles fue lo acontecido en el 15-M, según se puede ahora constatar. Hoy mismo redacté "Primera actualización. Artículo en Forbes apoya cambio de rumbo en Pacto Eléctrico y RD: sistema amañado y electores enfurecidos en USA." de la nota "Será ahora el mejor momento de diálogo iniciando el cambio de rumbo de RD con el Pacto Eléctrico? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/g386mh" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/g386mh">http://bit.ly/g386mh</a> )," que nos trae la versión de Occupy Wall Street del desprestigio. Con mucho respeto, sugiero que ustedes necesitan considerar con urgencia cambiar de rumbo hacia la civilización sistémica, como se explica en dicha nota. España tiene la gran oportunidad de ser el primer país del mundo en dar el salto de la independencia a la interdependencia. Es decir, ustedes necesitan acudir a la innovación institucional, para reconocer que España es un anti-sistema que aspira a transformarse en un sistema. Como verán también en dicha nota, es necesario que se olviden la primacía de las partes y pasen a la primacía del todo.</div>
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Ya existen las razones para salir de la tormenta que respalda el pesimismo TNA (no hay alternativa) para poder pasar al optimismo TAA (hay una alternativa). Ese pesimismo se fundó en que los mercados necesitan regularse y esa regulación se ha ido al extremo. Esas razones permiten que los mercados anti-sistémicos impulsados por TNA den paso a los mercados sistémicos que ofrece el TAA, siendo España el candidato con las condiciones más favorables para dar el salto de la democracia representativa que ha crecido en exceso generando un gran desequilibrio Estado-mercado, a un equilibrio de un Estado minimalista que impuse la democracia directa con mercados sistémicos. Por eso, no son los líderes políticos los que son importantes, sino los emprendedores. El primer ejemplo del cambio que trae la civilización sistémica aparece en la nota "Cuarta decisión plenaria de los actores convocados al Pacto Eléctrico: libre mercado sistémico de electricidad (<a href="http://bit.ly/g312mh" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/g312mh">http://bit.ly/g312mh</a> )," que es la nota que corresponde al último tuit de una conversación (secuencia) de tuits que refleja el proceso que respalda dicho hallazgo.</div>
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España debe salir de la "Zona de Comodidad" para "ir a donde sucede la magia." Porque va al todo de la democracia global, al responderle al sabio Zygmunt Bauman, quien fue entrevistado por Ricardo de Querol, como aparece en la noticia “Las redes sociales son una trampa,” publicada ayer en El País, no dejes de ver lo del anti-sistema judicial dominicano que aparece en el contenido externo. España por sí sola y mucho menos Cataluña pueden ser independientes en un mundo dominado por una corrupción anti-sistémica internacional. Los diputados necesitan verse, no solo como miembros de la Unión Europea, sino como ciudadanos del mundo, para poder formar un gobierno sólido como el que aspiraban sin saberlo los del 15-M. La constitución necesita cambiarse y primero hace falta una declaración de interdependencia que sirva de ejemplo a la Unión Europea y a los demás países del mundo. Lo más que los diputados podrán hacer sin tener en cuenta lo anterior es quedarse en la TNA (no hay alternativa) que ofrece la modernidad líquida de Bauman, que sigue desarrollando el destacado filosofo.</div>
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Tercera decisión plenaria de <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PactoElectrico?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">PactoElectrico</span></a>: ser ejemplo de como derramar riqueza <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/g294mh" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="https://t.co/T5WDJRvzDz" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/g294mh"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/g294mh<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a> <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a><a class="PrettyLink link media customisable" data-pre-embedded="true" data-scribe="" dir="ltr" href="https://t.co/8la0tZ3eGe" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;">pic.twitter.com/8la0tZ3eGe</a></div>
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Como el <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PactoElectrico?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">PactoElectrico</span></a>, llevemos anti-sistema judicial "a donde sucede la magia" <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/g296mh" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="https://t.co/jUukckqQFP" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/g296mh"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/g296mh<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a> <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a><a class="PrettyLink link media customisable" data-pre-embedded="true" data-scribe="" dir="ltr" href="https://t.co/2JIUQZSFQU" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;">pic.twitter.com/2JIUQZSFQU</a></div>
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<b>¿Confusión peligrosa?</b> En el programa Encuentro de CNN en Español, del 30-12-15, Camilo Egaña resaltó el artículo "Podemos como tentación," publicado por El País, escrito por Francesc de Carreras, un profesor de Derecho Constitucional, que contribuyó a formar el partido Ciudadanos. Como acostumbra, Camilo entrevistó a Carlos Alberto Montaner para ir a favor de la razón y en contra de la emoción de Podemos, como si el mundo no hubiese cambiado. Aquí subyace la suposición de dicho artículo de que en materia constitucional el mundo debe permanecer entre la ilustración y el romanticismo que induce a TNA (There´s No Alternative). TNA induce igualmente a "una confusión peligrosa" que se disuelve (desaparece) con el TAA (There´s An Alternative) de la creación de la civilización sistémica, al aprender que la emoción del 15M y la razón del TAA se pueden reforzar mutuamente. Para crear la civilización sistémica, lo primero que deben hacer es una transformación constitucional a la interdependencia que disuelve todos los reclamos de independencia. Para más detalles, ver el contenido externo.</div>
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En 2016 dar sabiduría <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COP21?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">COP21</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/M15?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">M15</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PactoElectrico?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">PactoElectrico</span></a> p/ crear civilización sistémica <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/705GMH" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="https://t.co/MUjatwidON" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/705GMH"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/705GMH<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a> <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a><a class="PrettyLink link media customisable" data-pre-embedded="true" data-scribe="" dir="ltr" href="https://t.co/uC9Fg7mGQc" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;">pic.twitter.com/uC9Fg7mGQc</a></div>
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As The Great Decoupling <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COP21?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">COP21</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/15M?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">15M</span></a> is driven by TNA anti-systems, What about TAA systemic civilization? <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/g262mh" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="https://t.co/gZ2ol2VBHg" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/g262mh"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/g262mh<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a><a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a></div>
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Things might change for youth if Spain considers that when they wrote their book, "The Second Machine Age: Work, Progress, and Prosperity in a Time of Brilliant Technologies," Erik Brynjolfsson and Andrew McAfee "took an upbeat view of the high-tech future. But since its 2014 publication, the two academics have been grappling with a problem whose dimensions surprise even them: why digital innovations are contributing to the stagnation in average incomes in the United States and to the disappearance of so many middle-level jobs." Please consider the Happy New 2016 action oriented scientific attitude response that´s available in the post "As The Great Decoupling is driven by TNA anti-systems, What about TAA in systemic civilization? ( <a href="http://bit.ly/g262mh" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/g262mh">http://bit.ly/g262mh</a> )." It is easy to agree after the fact that such <b>Great Decoupling</b> was what enabled the 15-M movement as youth met with TAA (There´s No Alternative). But to have TAA (There's An Alternative) a new constitution is needed to transform the Spanish anti-system state into a system. By the way, this is the way out the current Spanish electoral earthquake.</div>
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El problema de la independencia es ficticio y desaparece con la interdependencia. Esto aplica no solo a Cataluña-España. La interdependencia aplica a la crisis electoral y también al problema que tiene el Reino Unido con la Unión Europea. Vivimos en un mundo cada vez más interdependiente y no queremos reconocerlo. Otra cosa que sucede es que vivimos en un mundo anti-sistémico (el todo es menor que la suma de las partes) impulsado por la democracia representativa y la civilización industrial que se ha expandido más de la cuenta, lo que se refleja en la Unión Europea, en España y también en Cataluña. Los del 15-M querían un sistema (el todo es superior a la suma de las partes), como queremos en República Dominicana en electricidad y como necesitamos que ocurra para eliminar el anti-sistema del cambio climático. La transformación (no transición) de un anti-sistema a un sistema debe empezar por una declaración de interdependencia. Para más detalles, consideren por favor el contenido externo.</div>
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"Las acampadas del 15-M no fueron más que un aviso de la indignación de los españoles ante la forma de afrontar la crisis política, económica y social. No se trataba solo de protestar contra la pobreza y la desigualdad; la insatisfacción era mucho más profunda, como se ha ido poniendo de manifiesto en las citas electorales de los últimos dos años." Hasta ahí está bien también. No así en "Los españoles quieren un cambio en las instituciones que nos representan y seguirán dando la espalda a los partidos que no les ofrezcan soluciones," sino el equilibrio arriba mencionado y agrego que "Esta vez, los electores han pedido una cierta ruptura con el" anti-sistema. España no necesita "reformas institucionales." Necesita innovación institucional con una transformación estructural profunda, como se explica en el contenido externo.</div>
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"La corrupción rampante, iniciada en los ochenta y los noventa, unida a la crisis económica de 2008, desencadenaron una enorme avalancha de desafección hacia la anti-política y los anti-políticos. Los ciudadanos reclaman (o exigen) un cambio radical en la forma de hacer política, de administrar Justicia..." Hasta ahí está bien. No así "...de elegir a sus representantes y de distribuir de forma más justa el dinero de los impuestos." Lo que se requiere es un equilibrio Estado mercado que permita la democracia directa, donde corresponda, como en electricidad.... Sigue...</div>
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He leído todos y cada uno de los comentarios anteriores ahora que van 122. En España, al igual que casi todos los países del mundo, en términos generales solo se considera la dependencia y la independencia. La independencia llegó para la gran mayoría de los países en los últimos 200 años, porque el mundo cambió de la agricultura a la industria como actividad principal. Pero desde hace tiempo se sabe que hay algo superior a la independencia, la interdependencia con la que se lograría la unidad. Pero para ser interdependiente primero hay que ser independiente. ¿Les interesa a ustedes intercambiar sobre esa otra opción?¿Creen ustedes que con elecciones en mayo 2016 el caos desaparece? Piensen lo que dijo Henry Ford cuando desarrolló una nueva “constitución” para producir carros. Fue algo así, "si le hubiera preguntado a la gente que querían, me hubiesen dicho caballos más rápidos.” Las luchas por la independencia fueron porque el mundo cambió y mucho. ¿No habrá llegado el momento de que España sea el primer país del mundo en realizar una Declaración por la Interdependencia y luego una nueva constitución?</div>
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La lucha se desarma si se cambia de la COP, conferencia de las partes, a la COW, conferencia del todo. En la conferencia del todo surge una nueva civilización que hace que a la civilización industrial le pase lo mismo que a la civilización agrícola, reducir su tajada de mercado. Con una nueva civilización, se pasa de la independencia a la interdependencia, y se reconoce que el rumbo de la gran mayoría de las organizaciones está definido por no ser sistemas o en otras palabras, por ser anti-sistemas. Es así con un futuro claro, de una civilización que vengo llamado sistémica, de lo que tenemos que hacer, que el dinero vuelve a su rol tradicional de capital productivo a largo plazo, siendo muy barato porque es de las cosas más abundantes que tenemos. Lo escaso entonces es la gente capaz de hacer las transformaciones de anti-sistemas en sistemas. Para más detalles, ver por ejemplo la nota "Cambio de paradigma a la riqueza del liderazgo en el Pacto Eléctrico y la COP21 (<a href="http://bit.ly/g207mh" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/g207mh">http://bit.ly/g207mh</a> )" y su “Primera actualización. ¿Deben COP21 y Pacto Eléctrico ser equilibrados y contentar a los pro-sistema?”</div>
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Keynes was wrong when he said that. In his long run of we have a new civilization that replaces the industrial civilization.</div>
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Cuando hablan de “'la transformación estructural pendiente' que se debe acometer," no parece estar claro a qué se refieren. Aceptemos que está íntimamente relacionado con "la participación excesiva del sector público en la economía podría tener efectos perjudiciales al desplazar al sector privado que ya se ha visto perjudicado por la incertidumbre política y la falta de reformas..." He descubierto que la clave para definir esas transformaciones estructurales se simplifica si se aclara que es un sistema y que no es un sistema, que entonces sugiero es un antisistema. Es así como los Estados son actualmente antisistemas, incluyendo España, Portugal, Italia, Grecia, donde la cultura latina tiene efectos significativos. Entonces hace falta un cambio cultural que llegará haciendo las referidas transformaciones.</div>
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La introducción de la "Primera actualización. ¿Deben COP21 y Pacto Eléctrico ser equilibrados y contentar a los pro-sistema?" de la nota "Cambio de paradigma a la riqueza del liderazgo en el Pacto Eléctrico y la COP21," se inicia así: "De tener respuesta afirmativa esa pregunta clave, sería una transformación crucial sobre lo que aparece en el artículo El pulso con India y China marca el final de la cumbre de París, escrito como los anteriores por Manuel Planelles en El País, que también forma parte integral de esta nota. Refiriendose a 'Laurent Fabius, ministro de Exteriores de Francia, (quien) tiene previsto presentar en la mañana del sábado el texto del acuerdo de París contra el cambio climático,' dice que 'La propuesta de acuerdo de Fabius, que como anfitrión preside la cumbre y dirige las negociaciones, debe “ser equilibrada y enfadar a todos.' Aunque abajo verán que solo enfadará a los pro-antisistema, la negociación se torna muy diferente porque se tendra un futuro claro por delante..."Ver contenido externo,</div>
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Cambio paradigma a riqueza del liderazgo en <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PactoElectrico?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">PactoElectrico</span></a><a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="1875891036" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/PactosRD" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">PactosRD</span></a> y <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COP21?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">COP21</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="2617471956" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/COP21" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">COP21</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="243236419" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/CFigueres" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">CFigueres</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="17463923" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/UNFCCC" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">UNFCCC</span></a><a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://bit.ly/g207mh" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="https://t.co/m4XK1xayyY" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/g207mh"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>bit.ly/g207mh<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;"> </span></a> <a class="PrettyLink hashtag customisable" data-query-source="hashtag_click" data-scribe="element:hashtag" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EuropeIN?src=hash" rel="tag" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">#</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">EuropeIN</span></a></div>
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Muy cortésmente les doy a conocer la introducción de la nota "Cambio de paradigma a la riqueza del liderazgo en el Pacto Eléctrico y la COP21 ( <a href="http://bit.ly/g207mh" style="border: 0px; color: #0392d2; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank" title="http://bit.ly/g207mh">http://bit.ly/g207mh</a> ):" Este es un urgente intento de hacer que la COP21 y el Pacto Eléctrico se refuercen mutuamente para lograr cambiar sus obsoletos paradigmas con la intención de mejorar la situación de todos los países del mundo. Lo que sigue se nutre de dos valiosos y oportunos articulos escritos por Manuel Planelles en El País, que forman parte integral de esta nota. El primero es "Claves para entender la negociación final de la Cumbre del Clima de París." Al final repito el comentario que coloqué debajo del mismo, que sirve de sustento al segundo [este] "Ocho palabras para la discordia en el pacto de París sobre cambio climático," cuyo subtítulo es “la ‘diferenciación’ enfrenta a Europa y China en las negociaciones de París.” Sería muy oportuno conocer sus comentarios, especialmente los del autor de eos dos artículos, si suspenden el actual paradigma y asumen el paradigma que aparece en la colaboración en dicha nota que pretende ser de caildad</div>
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La conferencia (con primacía) de las partes (estados), los planes y las extrapolaciones, la transición, la independencia, financiamiento escaso, elementos todos de la civilización industrial no tienen sentido. Lo que tiene sentido es la primacía del todo, la innovación en el mercado, la transformación, la interdependencia, elementos estos de la civilización que vengo llamado sistémica. Lo primero que se debe acordar es un nuevo orden mundial, una Declaración Global de Interdependencia, reconociendo que casi todos los sectores de energía son antisistemas que protegen las energías fósiles. En vez de emisiones y dinero, la meta principal pasa a realizar transformaciones profundas para desarrollar sistemas de energía que disuelven el cambio climático. Las constituciones de los países pasarán a ser interdependientes (el problema del Senado USA desaparece). De esos elementos es que debe salir el nombre del acuerdo. Para más detalles vean por favor la siguiente secuencia de tuits (dos se ven directamente y para los demás pulse en espacio en blanco) que aparecen en el contenido externo</div>
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¡¡¡Viva Venezuela!!! Me agrada leer que Henrique Capriles al pedir "humildad, madurez y mucha serenidad" también "... llamó a elevar el nivel del debate político y a trabajar por sacar adelante iniciativas que permitan solventar algunos de los problemas más severos que enfrentan los venezolanos, fruto de la crisis económica que se expresa en una inflación del 200 por ciento y altos índices de escasez. “Venezuela no ha explotado porque los venezolanos estábamos esperando las elecciones. Pero la crisis sigue igualita” ¿Y si en vez quedarse limitado por el debate bajo la primacía de las partes, Venezuela pasa a impulsar un diálogo generativo bajo la primacía del todo para dejar de ser un país antisistema sin futuro como consecuencia de la civilización industrial a uno de los primeros países sistema del mundo en declarar su in(ter)dependencia para impulsar la civilización sistemica y entonces volverse, valga la redundancia un país in(ter)dependiente, como se explica en el contenido externo?</div>
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Fernando escribe " Ahora todos están a favor de acometer la reforma, salvo Mariano Rajoy, y están dispuestos a abordarla en cuanto se abran las nuevas Cortes a mediados del mes de enero. El proceso es largo y complicado porque las propuestas incluyen modificaciones esenciales que requerirán la convocatoria de un referéndum al final de la legislatura. Pero nunca ha estado tan cerca el proceso de reforma porque nunca tantos partidos la han defendido en sus programas, ni nunca ha habido tanta mayoría a favor como la que previsiblemente habrá tras el 20-D." ¿Será porque el mundo ha cambiado mucho que hay 'tanta mayoría a favor'? ¿Se sabe cuál es el futuro que se quiere alcanzar? ¿Será el futuro con el sistema que querían los del 15-M y que sugieren a lo mejor que España y su constitución sean antisistemas? En el contenido externo he colocado un tuit a Fernando que tiene en estos momentos 7 retuits y 3 me gusta. ¿Debería Fernando intentar responderlo?</div>
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Entiendo que prácticamente todos los españoles suponen que el Estado español es un sistema. Yo lo dudo y personalmente entiendo que es un antisistema. Yo dudo también que a los catalanes que llaman antisistema sean sistema. En ese sentido, consideren en el contenido externo por favor la respuesta dada al tuit de Fernando Garea @fgarea en @el_pais "Los candidatos anticipan en el Congreso el debate constitucional que marcará la próxima legislatura.Rajoy se resiste"</div>
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Los candidatos anticipan en el Congreso el debate constitucional que marcará la próxima legislatura.Rajoy se resiste<a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="http://politica.elpais.com/politica/2015/12/06/actualidad/1449426919_895735.html" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="https://t.co/zOxH28S5M2" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="http://politica.elpais.com/politica/2015/12/06/actualidad/1449426919_895735.html"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">http://</span>politica.elpais.com/politica/2015/<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">12/06/actualidad/1449426919_895735.html </span>…</a></div>
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En vez de debate <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="78863928" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/Fgarea" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">Fgarea</span></a> <a class="PrettyLink profile customisable h-card" data-mentioned-user-id="7996082" data-scribe="element:mention" dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/el_pais" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><span class="PrettyLink-prefix">@</span><span class="PrettyLink-value">el_pais</span></a> para reformar la constitución, consideren un diálogo generativo para transformarla <a class="link customisable" data-expanded-url="https://twitter.com/gmh_upsa/status/673599869936799745" data-scribe="element:url" dir="ltr" href="https://t.co/ZESICZUDNe" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: #2b7bb9; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank" title="https://twitter.com/gmh_upsa/status/673599869936799745"><span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">https://</span>twitter.com/gmh_upsa/statu<span class="u-hiddenVisually" style="border: 0px !important; clip: rect(1px 1px 1px 1px) !important; height: 1px !important; overflow: hidden !important; padding: 0px !important; position: absolute !important; width: 1px !important;">s/673599869936799745 </span>…</a></div>
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